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Old 04-28-02, 01:45 PM
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Need new engine .... what would you get?

I have a 93 touring with around 82k miles ... the stock engine is dead as well as the stock twins. I was wondering what you guys would do ....

mods:
greddy stock mount
pettit intake
dp
hi-flo cat
rp catback

please include what mods you'd get to accompany any of the choices.

Thanks in advance
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rebuild with streetport from www.pineappleracing.com

and a ECU!!!!!!!
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there is no real benifit from a J-Spec engine, other than not having an EGR system.

the best route would be to rebuild and do a streetport (will help you even with stock turbos), and save up go single, as well as doing all the other mods needed to support it.
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Re: Need new engine .... what would you get?

Originally posted by SexyRexyR1
I have a 93 touring with around 82k miles ... the stock engine is dead as well as the stock twins. I was wondering what you guys would do .... mods:
greddy stock mount pettit intake dp hi-flo cat rp catback
please include what mods you'd get to accompany any of the choices. Thanks in advance SRR1
This is what I'm doing:

street port & polished stage II, 3mm Hurley racing seals, upgraded coolant seals,
AEM ECU(If they can ever deliver),
XS T04e single turbo kit,
SMIC (400+cu.in.),
Aquamist 2s water injection kit,
Propane Injection Kit(Maybe),
Pettit ss resonated MP,
Pettit ss cat-back,
RP Racing fuel pump,
1600cc injectors,
Profec B(15&20+psi),
3-bar Map Sensor,
under pulley kit(no air pump),
boost gauge,
Evans Coolant

Ken
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i think that by the time you price a reman/rebuild + a single upgrade, that you might want to reconsider. i wanted to do the same thing, but could not fathom paying for a 14K motor loan.......so i just had a stronger motor built, and in 2 years when it is good and broken in AND paid for, ill turn around and upgrade to a to4r or something......

to the question, i would do a street port rebuild, ecu mod........fuel pump.......maybe injectors.....and so on...
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How about a street port rebuild, and find a set of decent condition used turbos. Then save up for the singel.
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mazda rebiuilt... Works well and has a 12 mnth warranty... cant beatit for the $$.. and I would worry about the turbos once you know you need new ones..
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Re: Re: Need new engine .... what would you get?

Originally posted by LUV94RX7


This is what I'm doing:

street port & polished stage II, 3mm Hurley racing seals, upgraded coolant seals,
AEM ECU(If they can ever deliver),
XS T04e single turbo kit,
SMIC (400+cu.in.),
Aquamist 2s water injection kit,
Propane Injection Kit(Maybe),
Pettit ss resonated MP,
Pettit ss cat-back,
RP Racing fuel pump,
1600cc injectors,
Profec B(15&20+psi),
3-bar Map Sensor,
under pulley kit(no air pump),
boost gauge,
Evans Coolant

Ken
AEM says that theyre ecu shouldnt be used with a street ported motor.
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Originally posted by Zoomspeed
How about a street port rebuild, and find a set of decent condition used turbos. Then save up for the singel.
I was gonna say this too. get a decent pair of used twins for 200-250.
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I think you should do a street port...Have the turbo's rebuilt....And get an ECU...Also if not already done go non sequential...

BTW it would help to know ur budget....That way we could recomend a specific route...Just my 2 cents worth.
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Re: Re: Re: Need new engine .... what would you get?

Originally posted by Quik 93 FD AEM says that theyre ecu shouldnt be used with a street ported motor.
Where did you get that info? They have my configuration and Jason S. did not tell me anything in my configuration would hinder me using their new ecu.

Ken
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Originally posted by Want2race
mazda rebiuilt... Works well and has a 12 mnth warranty... cant beatit for the $$.. and I would worry about the turbos once you know you need new ones..

how much did that run ya? and did you trust the dealer to put it in or did u take it elsewhere? I have heard mazda dealers can be a FDs worst enemy
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Originally posted by JoeD
there is no real benifit from a J-Spec engine, other than not having an EGR system.

the best route would be to rebuild and do a streetport (will help you even with stock turbos), and save up go single, as well as doing all the other mods needed to support it.
Actually there is a benifit...you can fit a HKS T51R or HKS T04R kit on. The T51R will not fit on the US manifold. The lower intake pipe on the US cars have the EGR that stick out and will not allow the turbo to fit.

Besides that there is no benifit. But if you are trying to save money you can get a "newer" motor and turbos pretty cheap.

I got my JDM motor, turbos and tranny for $1500...but then again I know the importer..but you CAN find them pretty cheap.
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Rotary Knight, is there a problem with smog with importing an engine like that, Im in Cali. Not sure if you are in a strict smog area, but just curious if you would know.
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SMOG what's that.....? There is always a way...it gets more and more expensive every year especially in SoCali.
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Originally posted by JoeD
there is no real benifit from a J-Spec engine, other than not having an EGR system.

the best route would be to rebuild and do a streetport (will help you even with stock turbos), and save up go single, as well as doing all the other mods needed to support it.
The benefits i see with buying a JDM engine is:

1. price
2. they are complete
3. come with turbos


Thanks for posting!! Keep em coming
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Originally posted by R Xplicit
i think that by the time you price a reman/rebuild + a single upgrade, that you might want to reconsider
MY sentiments exactly .... that's why i put on there "be poor for a long time"

I don't see how you came up with 14k to go single ... but i'm sure there are quite a few extras on your list.

Thanks for the post ... keep em coming
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Originally posted by Zoomspeed
How about a street port rebuild, and find a set of decent condition used turbos. Then save up for the singel.
Very good idea ... duely noted.

Do you know where i could get a set of used twins in good condition for cheapo?

thanks for the post
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Well he is including the cost of a new engine as well as the single and all the additions you HAVE to have when going single. Just converting to single from stock will run you upwards of 9-10k and that's not including reliability mods.
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Originally posted by Want2race
mazda rebiuilt... Works well and has a 12 mnth warranty... cant beatit for the $$.. and I would worry about the turbos once you know you need new ones..
I like the idea of a mazda reman ... I know i need new twins though. New ones are very expensive, and i haven't seen anyone selling a good set of used twins.

Still not sure on which route i'll take ... I think i've ruled out going single however.

Thanks for the post ... keep them coming
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Originally posted by man_of_steel


I was gonna say this too. get a decent pair of used twins for 200-250.
Where have you seen used twins in good shape for this price? Please let me know!!

Thanks for the post
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how much did that run ya? and did you trust the dealer to put it in or did u take it elsewhere? I have heard mazda dealers can be a FDs worst enemy
Mazda dealer in Roswell, GA did mine (b4 I owned it) and I have no complaints at all. Everything was done really well.
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Originally posted by Boost Junkie
I think you should do a street port...Have the turbo's rebuilt....And get an ECU...Also if not already done go non sequential...

BTW it would help to know ur budget....That way we could recomend a specific route...Just my 2 cents worth.
Thanks for that 2 cents ...every little bit helps because pennies add up!

So if I go the streetport rebuild route as well as the turbos ... what kind of price would i be looking at?
What is the benefit gained through going non-sequential?
and What kind of ECU do you suggest i go with?

Thanks for the post
SRR1 ... drop me a PM when you get a chance.
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Originally posted by slug420

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mazda rebiuilt... Works well and has a 12 mnth warranty... cant beatit for the $$.. and I would worry about the turbos once you know you need new ones..
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how much did that run ya? and did you trust the dealer to put it in or did u take it elsewhere? I have heard mazda dealers can be a FDs worst enemy
I second those questions ...

Thanks for the post
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Originally posted by ttpowerd
Well he is including the cost of a new engine as well as the single and all the additions you HAVE to have when going single. Just converting to single from stock will run you upwards of 9-10k and that's not including reliability mods.
That's the price range i got when i priced out my single conversion ... luckily i have a lot of the reliability mods already and had a very cool mechanic. It was going to take me right around 9 grand to go single safely. That's not an option now.

Thanks for the post!
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By the way ... what would you do TTpowerd?


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