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Modified Magazine Cover Story: FD Testing Event Virginia International Raceway

Old Sep 20, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Got mine in the mail yesterday, great reading.
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Is the issue out this month...like to pick one up
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Here is the article. Really good read and pleased to see Modified covered all the types (rotaries and pistons) in attendance. Had a great time and planning the next one. We are looking into November or early December or possibly early next year if that doesn't pan out.











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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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thanks. looks like it was a good time. i don't usually buy Modified, but i will see if i can pick up a copy.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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LOVE IT!

Can't wait to get this mag in my paws
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
LOVE IT!

Can't wait to get this mag in my paws
Track ****!!! Love it!
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
David... We'll do this again soon and get the original data we had hoped for before so many cars went bad. Modified did a really nice piece even though we didn't get at some of the information we wanted. Maybe another event in November or early spring.

Gordon
Yep

Who's up for Mon Nov 18th and we can rent whatever track we want. Depending upon cost I'd vote for F then N and then S.

I haven't driven the Patriot course but from what I gather it's like a fast autocross track so may not be the best plan for those driving several hours etc......
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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^ I like the 18th. Gordon, can you call your VIR guy and see what the options would be for Monday November 18th? We can then go from there.

Who knows, I might actually have my car back and running by then.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1
Track ****!!! Love it!
It's given more rides than a lesson pony

Currently it's back at PFS for some love. Morgen (AKA bunny boo/wifee) tour the front bumper off while adding some break in miles to the fresh motor. She drove it out to visit her horse and decided to grade the driveway while she was there.

I may have the whole thing painted or just let the patched up bumper be yet another tattoo of hard living.


Originally Posted by gmonsen
Guys... I'm on it. Will call Monday and lock something up. Now that my car's running strong and reliably and I've had some time with it. I can't wait. Finally, Flynn and Hahn will get to drive it on track!

Gordon
LETS DO THIS

Me and Pete will probably have a 3 rotor in our cars by spring after driving yours
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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i need to buy this issue!
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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Maybe it would be better to do something in the early spring so that...uhm... It would avoid chances of snow? Or the yearly November rape monkeys that infest virginia. (Making things up to try and buy time so my car will be done and I can come )
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 01:11 PM
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^ You had me with the possible snow event, but I wised up when you brought out the rape monkeys
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Fritz... I bet you will! I haven't really said this exactly, though everyone probably knows I think it. The NA 3 rotor is the best motor for the FD. Period. A 4 rotor NA is stronger and has the same power delivery characteristics, but, again, I think its too much power for the chassis at 550-600+ whp.

Gordon
I disagree, a Turbo 3 rotor is ideal lol, I got mine setup quite well throughout the season . I definitely want to make it to the next event.

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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 02:52 PM
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Do you have a subscription, or did you find a copy? I looked at Barnes and Noble tonight, no luck!
A buddy told me it was out. I went to two bookstores, a grocery store, CVS, Rite Aid,
three gas stations, and finally found it at Sheetz.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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Just picked up an issue. I see myself in 3 pics.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Maybe it would be better to do something in the early spring so that...uhm... It would avoid chances of snow? Or the yearly November rape monkeys that infest virginia. (Making things up to try and buy time so my car will be done and I can come )

I feel you on that one. Spring works better for me also. The more 3 rotors the better! I'm already prepping the car to drive it's 1st long journey to Vegas and Sevenstock. There's no way I could turn around then drive all the way over the east coast that same month with my work schedule.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thewird
I disagree, a Turbo 3 rotor is ideal lol, I got mine setup quite well throughout the season . I definitely want to make it to the next event.

thewird


Seems to me it looks like this may be an all 3 and 4 rotor shootout!
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Fritz... I bet you will! I haven't really said this exactly, though everyone probably knows I think it. The NA 3 rotor is the best motor for the FD. Period. A 4 rotor NA is stronger and has the same power delivery characteristics, but, again, I think its too much power for the chassis at 550-600+ whp.

Gordon
350 is the perfect # and with the right supporting parts the car is surgical on a road course. Once you get into the 400 and up power range you have to rebuild the entire car to balance and support the power if used fully but there's the rub because few people making 300 much less 400 or 500 are capable of fully using that power AND the drive line, brake and susp mods on those cars aren't close to supporting the power etc...etc... My car makes 300 to 350 and I'm constantly hurting the trans, the diff, the brakes wear quickly, it could use more tire which means more spring and down force and on and on, not to mention I can always improve my driving..... IN OTHER WORDS I'm still figuring out how to get the most out of 350 and I've been driving on track for 10 plus years. I wouldn't know what to do with a 3 rotor turbo FD making 500 rwhp. Sometimes you really can have too much power and in a little car like the FD it doesn't take much to OD

Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Maybe it would be better to do something in the early spring so that...uhm... It would avoid chances of snow? Or the yearly November rape monkeys that infest virginia. (Making things up to try and buy time so my car will be done and I can come )
Likely the case but probably have an event in the spring regardless.

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A buddy told me it was out. I went to two bookstores, a grocery store, CVS, Rite Aid,
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Sheetz here I come

Originally Posted by t-von
Seems to me it looks like this may be an all 3 and 4 rotor shootout!
Are Pete and I chopped liver do we need to carry a rotor in the glove box
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn

350 is the perfect # and with the right supporting parts the car is surgical on a road course. Once you get into the 400 and up power range you have to rebuild the entire car to balance and support the power if used fully but there's the rub because few people making 300 much less 400 or 500 are capable of fully using that power AND the drive line, brake and susp mods on those cars aren't close to supporting the power etc...etc... My car makes 300 to 350 and I'm constantly hurting the trans, the diff, the brakes wear quickly, it could use more tire which means more spring and down force and on and on, not to mention I can always improve my driving..... IN OTHER WORDS I'm still figuring out how to get the most out of 350 and I've been driving on track for 10 plus years. I wouldn't know what to do with a 3 rotor turbo FD making 500 rwhp. Sometimes you really can have too much power and in a little car like the FD it doesn't take much to OD

Are Pete and I chopped liver do we need to carry a rotor in the glove box

Now Fritz you know that would be a cool *** shoot out if it ever happened? Lol! Might you and Pete join the club someday? With your driving expertise and knowlege, I would love to see how you would setup your own track prepped 20b. It just really amazes me the amount of 3 and 4 rotors that could be in attendance racing around that track the next time around.

Now I truely feel you on your above statement about the power limits. The white Ls2 fd was the fastest car their. I couldn't imagine riding shotgun around that track if your car was putting down 450 like that car was. Now David, Logan, and thewird both are pushing well over 600. That's just insanity!
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 08:03 PM
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Visiters to the site might start thinking fds came with 3 rotors

Any other recent magazines with articles of rx7's...while im at the store
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Now Fritz you know that would be a cool *** shoot out if it ever happened? Lol! Might you and Pete join the club someday? With your driving expertise and knowlege, I would love to see how you would setup your own track prepped 20b. It just really amazes me the amount of 3 and 4 rotors that could be in attendance racing around that track the next time around.

Now I truely feel you on your above statement about the power limits. The white Ls2 fd was the fastest car their. I couldn't imagine riding shotgun around that track if your car was putting down 450 like that car was. Now David, Logan, and thewird both are pushing well over 600. That's just insanity!
Insanity is the correct word

Originally Posted by preludesh2000
Visiters to the site might start thinking fds came with 3 rotors

Any other recent magazines with articles of rx7's...while im at the store
each month there's a new 3 rotor build thread started and 2 or 3 1/2 built 3 rotors in the for sale section.

Just flipped through the MAG and Phils car is SWEEET! Can't wait to read that article.

PS I'm on my way to Richmond to pick up a parts car (stay tuned for some crazy cool parts) stop by sheetz to pick up the mag and while waiting in line the guy in front of me sees me holding the magazine and says "I didn't know that modified was still going" and I'm like "yep and take a look there's an article with my car in it" I felt like a rock star
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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Should of opened all the modified mag and autographed them
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 11:17 PM
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The only limitation I've found with my 20b turbo FD is the tranny which kept blowing 3rd gear (4 tranny's this season). I've had no nothing else break or grow wrong on the car all season (8-9 track days). I think I fixed it this weekend though cause I was running the car at full power all day and it didn't break where before it would only last 3-4 laps. Liberty built stock gearbox ftw.

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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 12:14 AM
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 06:53 AM
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Engine torque loads on the chassis are nothing compared to road loads. A sharp impact at one front tire can put well over 2000 lb-ft into the chassis. Also figure that the chassis engine/trans/diff mounting arrangement has been designed (to some degree) to deal with driveline shocks from highish-rpm clutch-drops or poor shifting/declutching loading which will give a brief instantaneous torque load greater than the smooth application of 450 lb-ft from the engine. IMO, most semi-modern car chassis' ability to "handle" significant increases in power is often underestimated, at least for road course applications (as opposed to 1/4-mile with massive 1st gear launches on super-sticky traction-compounded launch pad).
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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^ What he said. I'm looking forward to doing another event as we'll get to assess the characteristics of each type of car. My guess is the conclusions will fall into the "to each his own" category. We all build our cars for our vision.

Really looking forward to driving all the other cars though. Should be a blast once we can nail down a date.
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