Missed 3rd for the last time!
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Missed 3rd for the last time!
So, I missed 3rd the other day and now every time I try to shift to 5th it grinds. This is the 5th gear synchro correct? They need to drop the tranny to fix this right? Is there any special way of shifting to avoid this? I tried double clutching and shifting at different rpm's and it does not seem to work.
I really dont want to pay for the labor to drop a tranny, how much does the synchro cost and how much labor would it run?
I really dont want to pay for the labor to drop a tranny, how much does the synchro cost and how much labor would it run?
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Originally posted by Lost Time
If you can match revs properly you won't get the grind. If not, to hell with it. Live with the grinding, it won't kill you.
If you can match revs properly you won't get the grind. If not, to hell with it. Live with the grinding, it won't kill you.
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Most of the time you can drive without 5th, true you use it on the highway but I drove for 3 months with no reverse or fifth about 75+miles each day and alot of it highway. I used to just cruise in 4th at about 60..
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MacGyver shifting
bad 5th gear synchro driving technique:
From 4th go to nuetral
from nuetral center, slap to neutral left
from nuetral center, go to nuetral right
then you can shift in to 5th easily.
From 4th go to nuetral
from nuetral center, slap to neutral left
from nuetral center, go to nuetral right
then you can shift in to 5th easily.
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Re: Missed 3rd for the last time!
Originally posted by jd93rx7
So, I missed 3rd the other day and now every time I try to shift to 5th it grinds. This is the 5th gear synchro correct? They need to drop the tranny to fix this right? Is there any special way of shifting to avoid this? I tried double clutching and shifting at different rpm's and it does not seem to work.
I really dont want to pay for the labor to drop a tranny, how much does the synchro cost and how much labor would it run?
So, I missed 3rd the other day and now every time I try to shift to 5th it grinds. This is the 5th gear synchro correct? They need to drop the tranny to fix this right? Is there any special way of shifting to avoid this? I tried double clutching and shifting at different rpm's and it does not seem to work.
I really dont want to pay for the labor to drop a tranny, how much does the synchro cost and how much labor would it run?
Basically all I do is depress the clutch, pop the shifter out of 4th and up against fifth while my revs drop down to around 2100, while applying slight pressure against the shifter until it nudges into place.
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My 5th is gone to but I can still put it in gear but not fast and it wont grind sometimes. I use both masta cows and go racers techq. They both work fine. I dont know how you guys miss shifts. Ive never missed a shift in any manuel car. I did the 3rd to 5th 1 time, it was my first time in a RX7......can you blame me? Also why does it hurt the syncros if you go from 3rd to 5th?
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Re: Re: Missed 3rd for the last time!
Originally posted by MastaCow
I have the 5th gear synchro blown too.
Basically all I do is depress the clutch, pop the shifter out of 4th and up against fifth while my revs drop down to around 2100, while applying slight pressure against the shifter until it nudges into place.
I have the 5th gear synchro blown too.
Basically all I do is depress the clutch, pop the shifter out of 4th and up against fifth while my revs drop down to around 2100, while applying slight pressure against the shifter until it nudges into place.
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How exactly does a torque brace help with shifting into third? Is the problem that engine movement causes a misalignment on the gears?
Knock on wood - my 5th gear slips in fine (although I hardly ever use it - even when going 80/90), but I did get a nasty grind yesterday.
Knock on wood - my 5th gear slips in fine (although I hardly ever use it - even when going 80/90), but I did get a nasty grind yesterday.
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I've only missed 3rd once since I installed my B&M short shifter and that was the first day when I wasn't used to it yet. Now, it would be HARD to miss 3rd, even coming down from 5th. Pop it out of gear, let it center, jam it straight up!
Although I have delicate hands (computer keyboard guy) and I think I bruised my hand just below my thumb because the SS definately requires more force to put it in gear...
k
Although I have delicate hands (computer keyboard guy) and I think I bruised my hand just below my thumb because the SS definately requires more force to put it in gear...
k
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Originally posted by Ouijan
How exactly does a torque brace help with shifting into third? Is the problem that engine movement causes a misalignment on the gears?
Knock on wood - my 5th gear slips in fine (although I hardly ever use it - even when going 80/90), but I did get a nasty grind yesterday.
How exactly does a torque brace help with shifting into third? Is the problem that engine movement causes a misalignment on the gears?
Knock on wood - my 5th gear slips in fine (although I hardly ever use it - even when going 80/90), but I did get a nasty grind yesterday.
Yes, I am planning on another GB if I enough people are interested. keep an eye out in next few days.
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huh? English and complete sentences please...
Was that supposed to be:
If one were to stop missing 3rd would the 5th gear grinding continue to get worse, or stay the same?
k
Was that supposed to be:
If one were to stop missing 3rd would the 5th gear grinding continue to get worse, or stay the same?
k
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I'm convinced that my missing 3rd problem is engine-torque related. I've taken it to about 7000 rpm in 2nd before and literally had the shifter come out of my hand when I stepped on the clutch. Scared the crap outta me.
Either get the brace KZ1 offers or some new motor mounts might fix it.
-Scott
Either get the brace KZ1 offers or some new motor mounts might fix it.
-Scott
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I'll say one thing about the torque braces. If you've ever ridden or driven something with a sequential gear box, you'll love the way it shifts with the brace. zzzzzzZZZZZZZZ POP zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZ POP Very Nice.
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How exactly does a torque brace help with shifting into third? Is the problem that engine movement causes a misalignment on the gears?
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Originally posted by KZ1
best way to get rid of 3rd gear mis-shifts is a torque brace. It will eliminate the engine movement and give more RWHP.
best way to get rid of 3rd gear mis-shifts is a torque brace. It will eliminate the engine movement and give more RWHP.
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Originally posted by jd93rx7
Thanks for the replies guys.....
How the hell could 5th get any worse?
Thanks for the replies guys.....
How the hell could 5th get any worse?
Let it go and if you are hard on it and miss 3rd again, you might lose 5th and reverse totally.. Like I said I took my car into a repair shop to get boost problems fixed while I had a "slightly" bad 5th gear synchro. I got back and I had no 5th gear or reverse. I know they beat on my car when I took it in there, there's no other way it could have gotten broke. Probably because like people have said they redlined it, missed 3rd and jammed it into 5th by mistake "grinding" it and peices off to block both gears..
BTW, they did fix my boost problem, but they tried to tell me that the tranmission problems were a result of the now properly working turbos..
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Originally posted by jimlab
Would you like to explain the "more RWHP" statement?
Would you like to explain the "more RWHP" statement?