Looping the Steering Rack
All,
I have reviewed the archrives for removing the P/S pump and looping the steering rack. I realize there are a number of opinions concerning this procedure. What I would like to know is if anyone who has done this conversion...have they/you ever had any failures because of it
Thanx,
Jim
I have reviewed the archrives for removing the P/S pump and looping the steering rack. I realize there are a number of opinions concerning this procedure. What I would like to know is if anyone who has done this conversion...have they/you ever had any failures because of it
Thanx,
Jim
i did it cuz my power steering pump failed, twice, and was done messing around with it
i don't mind not having the power steering on the car, i can drive it just fine without it and i'm 140lbs
however, i did the loop procedure and i'm not happy with the handling afterwards, it's a little jittery and sometimes scary at high speeds
go with a manual rack, either the maval conversion or the atomicrex.
the atomicrex would be my choice considering the reviews i've heard
i don't mind not having the power steering on the car, i can drive it just fine without it and i'm 140lbs
however, i did the loop procedure and i'm not happy with the handling afterwards, it's a little jittery and sometimes scary at high speeds
go with a manual rack, either the maval conversion or the atomicrex.
the atomicrex would be my choice considering the reviews i've heard
I have been running mine looped for the past 2 years and no sign of problems or wear what so ever, you can also ask Rich "GoodfellasFD3S" as he has been running his for at least 5 years now with no problems...
Did the loop and i have agree with tt7hvn, i really do not like the jerky feel that comes with looping the line. Feels like it could jerk the wheel out of your hand if your not careful.
Yea, the looped line deal isnt the greatest, but it will work. If you drive the car a lot, especially in a city and are in and out of tight parking sports frequently I wouldnt delete it. Not much weight savings but does clean the engine bay up a decent bit.
I did the looped for three years, no issues. Then I converted mine fully myself. These is a thread addressing how to do it. But if your car is squirrelly at high speeds then you have other issues.
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Guys,
The car is strickly a track car for The Glen, Limerock, etc. Looking to get rid of some weight and get a better feel for the road. Strength is not an issue, neither is convenience.
Jim
The car is strickly a track car for The Glen, Limerock, etc. Looking to get rid of some weight and get a better feel for the road. Strength is not an issue, neither is convenience.
Jim
I got rid of my PS & AC 2 years ago and have never looked back. I looped mine with a Gotham kit (not the best but it works). I agree with badddrx7-if it's jumpy at speed you may have other problems.
I looped mine about 6 months ago and love it - it really cleans up the engine bay and increases road feel. It's a pain at low speed (<5mph), but it's not a daily driver so I don’t care. At any normal driving speeds, it really improves the drivability (especially for the price
). It's certainly not jittery or jerky at all... that's a different, unrealated, issue.
). It's certainly not jittery or jerky at all... that's a different, unrealated, issue.
I would really like to get an unbiased review if it truely is worth converting to a true manual rack. Ive had mine looped for years now and love the feel over the p/s. I just cant get over the cost of a true conversion when it works so good now. I feel like its one of those mods that people spend a ton of money on, then glorify it due to the expense/hassle they went through to get it.
I would really like to get an unbiased review if it truely is worth converting to a true manual rack. Ive had mine looped for years now and love the feel over the p/s. I just cant get over the cost of a true conversion when it works so good now. I feel like its one of those mods that people spend a ton of money on, then glorify it due to the expense/hassle they went through to get it.
I would really like to get an unbiased review if it truely is worth converting to a true manual rack. Ive had mine looped for years now and love the feel over the p/s. I just cant get over the cost of a true conversion when it works so good now. I feel like its one of those mods that people spend a ton of money on, then glorify it due to the expense/hassle they went through to get it.
I can see how having the quill welded up and all seals removed would greatly enhance the steering feel and response. This is what I plan to do, should cost me about $0.00.
For a while my PS pully was broken and I was just running no PS with all the PS stuff still there. At speed it was just fine... so I can only imagine it will be really good with a fully converted rack.
here it is, don't be fooled by the first pic of looped lines, go through the others to see the full teardown and conversion.
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php?x=14
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php?x=14








