hahaha forgot the link.... here it is...
http://www.raretrick.com/index1.asp?...roductsID=7124

 

lets say you get pulled over once a month for it and get a ticket. in md its like $55. so thats like less than $2 a day.

 

You think this one is compatible with the stock front? Maybe it's just for the Abflug fascias.

 

Now which one is this?

BTW guys thanks for all of your input.

 

once a month? seems excessive.

 

Good idea but,

Tex. Transp. Code § 502.404


TRANSPORTATION CODE
TITLE 7. VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
SUBTITLE A. CERTIFICATES OF TITLE AND REGISTRATION OF VEHICLES
CHAPTER 502. REGISTRATION OF VEHICLES
SUBCHAPTER H. OFFENSES AND PENALTIES



Tex. Transp. Code § 502.404 (2004)

§ 502.404. Operation of Vehicle Without License Plate or Registration Insignia


(a) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a registration period a passenger car or commercial motor vehicle that does not display two license plates, at the front and rear of the vehicle, that have been:

(1) assigned by the department for the period; or

(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the department that
establishes that the vehicle is registered for the period.

(b) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a registration period a passenger car or commercial motor vehicle, other than a vehicle assigned license plates for the registration period, that does not properly display the registration insignia issued by the department that establishes that the license plates have been validated for the period.

(c) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a registration period a road tractor, motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer that does not display a license plate, attached to the rear of the vehicle, that has been:

(1) assigned by the department for the period; or

(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the department that
establishes that the vehicle is registered for the period.

(d) Subsections (a) and (b) do not apply to a dealer operating a vehicle as provided by law.

(e) An offense under this section is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $ 200.

 

RX-187

All I was saying was a couple of people myself included said something about aerodynamics and air flow. It was followed by :


It was just interesting that the link for the retracting plate page had the following to say for the retracting plate:


"....At the same time, it also benefits the cooling system of the vehicle by allowing more frontal air flow to enter & cool the intercooler, turbocharger & engine bay."

Just for clarification and to not have to drag it up again.

It's no big deal. There's more important info in the posts.

 

i was making a point that tickets dont cost much. and they dont have any points. my point was that even if you did get pulled over that often which you wont, it wouldnt really matter.

 

blueskaterboy, I agree w/ your point. That's the same thing I was saying earlier on in this thread...no points = who cares!

 

Slightly off-topic, but I was told by an officer that the plate in front offers
a good vertical reflective target for radar, and that the Porsche 911 I was
driving at the time (with no front plate) was difficult to radar because of
its lack of vertical surfaces (no radiator up front, y'know).

 

Interesting... Are there any RADAR experts on the forum who will comment on this? Someone should design a "stealth" body kit that prevents RADAR detection...

 

I'm pretty sure it's compatible w/ all cuz that site his expertise is mostly nissan and ab flug doesn't really make things for nissan mostly toyota I believe (not sure though)

 

Exactly why people driving sports cars get pulled over for not having one...cuz they cant easily get you speeding unless you have it!

 

would u like your FD to end up looking like an F-117 Bomber?

 

Me personally NO, but I am sure if it meant no more tickets there are a lot of people that would consider it!

 

I'm pretty sure thats the case, otherwise marketing for devices like photo and radar blocking license plater covers would be bull

http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/anlasphotrad.html

 

I just placed mine in the front window with a nice new cloth jammed in behind it. It works well, but if you dont like the cloth idea then use some suction cups or velcro that will give you a clean look and you can pu it anywhere on the window you want. I also live in texas and have not had a problem with them saying anything about it being placed there. And I have been pulled over A LOT

 

Not an "expert," but it's very true that cops use the flat and reflective surface of the license plate to catch you, esp. with Laser, since Laser allows you to pick a specific spot on the vehicle and shoot...

Radar and laser does need some sort of angled area to bounce off of...if the car is too smooth flowing or curved/rounded, w/ not enough angled surfaces, it can definetly make detecting speed via radar and laser considerably more difficult.

This is actually the premise behind the FA-117 Stealth Bomber. A short excerpt:

"The skeleton of the F-117 is made mainly of aluminium. The aircrafts skin, by contrast, is mostly composite RAM (Radar Absorbent Material). The twin butterfly (\/) tail obscures the exhaust plume from infrared sensors aboard pursuing fighters. The Nighthawk's twin General Electric engines are buried deep in the fuselage. That have shallow "platypus" exhausts, which cool and deflect the exhaust gases upward to minimise heat emissions. The edges of the F-117's cockpit canopy, like all surfaces, have no right angles (right angles are strong radar reflectors)"

As for that skin they're talking about, the composite material is coupled w/ a special super absorptive black paint, which absorbs the radar rays instead of reflecting it. What is reflected is actually more deflected, and the signal is much less intense. Thus, F-117s can show up on radar as a large bird, but not an airplane.

I did read in Popular Mechanics/Science a few years back about a company that sells that radar-absorbing paint, and would paint your car w/ it. It was REAL expensive, prob never tested lol, and it was a grungy black that looked like your car had been in the sun for years...

 

be careful what you guys get... i know its a long shot, but this paint stuff, and even the license plate covers that "block or absorb" radar etc. can be considdered to be jammers which are illeagal in most states. like i said, i know its a long shot that a cop would ever think of that or even go after you for it, but hey, if he/she feels like being a dick... ya just never know

 

Actually, from what I read, the license plate covers don't hold up in court as a criminal offense, since a) if they made the tags unreadable, then how did the officer write down the license plate # on the ticket? (that's a very common defense), and b) most states only have laws on failure to display tags...they don't say anything about making the displayed tags illegible or unreadable.

That's also precisely the reason why Virginia clarified it's laws, and included a statement to the effect that anything that makes your plates illegible or unreadable is considered illegal.

As for jammers, man I want one bad, but you're right, a jammer (active one, that actually works) messes w/ actual radio and light frequencies, and is thus a violation of the FCC. So you get busted w/ a jammer, you're going to jail, cuz that's a felony...

 

I don't think that would really hold up because most of the license plate covers just make it harder to see the plate but don't make it impossible, so the cop could pull you over then check you plate (when it is easier to see). I think the point is that they want them to be unobscured so they can identify the tag number at a distance if they have to (like if you try to out run them).
Also, I think you'll find that most states do have statutes that require you to display a legible tag. Although some probably don't, I think most would because it would be pointless otherwise.

 

I'm not following which part you don't think will hold up...

The defense that the cop was able to read the plates to write it on the ticket was used successfully to beat the ticket in court before.

The defense that the law doesn't state the tags could be obscured from an angle, yet still legible etc also held up in court.

Yet I believe the specific wording of VA's laws was specifically chosen I believe to not allows such excuses to fly in VA. They say tags can't be obscured in any way, shape or form. That's why those plate covers are illegal to use in VA.

 

Good idea! I don't have a plate on my front end. Don't want one either.

 

i keep mine in the windshield on the passenger side no trouble yet.

 

Sounds like a good idea. I used to do this until the thought of being decapitated in an accident kept me from continuing. Do the suction cups work good?