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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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Imported RX-7 fs !?!

now why isnt this possible with a newer 99 model?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1850062724
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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it isn't impossible, it's pretty simple to bring one over actually, but its hard to get it legal to drive.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:37 PM
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Well, that year was actually crash tested for one...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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that said 320hp is that a stock number?
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by RX7withNitrous
that said 320hp is that a stock number?
I would think that it's a guesstimated number according to mods, there were no 320hp (even flywheel hp) FD ever produced from the factory

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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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Thats kinda cool to see up for sale just because it's the first I've seen done. Does look a bit beat up though.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 12:02 AM
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NO its not posible for it to be street legal to drive in the states. It much be trailered and only for car shows or just the track, thats it...

HOWEVER you can still bring the 92-95`s over, but it takes time..
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 01:48 AM
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They claim it's in "4.5" point condition on their 5 point scale. But from what we can see in the photo, it doesn't look that great. The headlight housings look pretty faded, and the paint looks a bit dull. Maybe it's just dirty, but if they're claiming that it is near perfect, they should clean it up and post some better pix...
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 02:05 AM
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NO its not posible for it to be street legal to drive in the states. It much be trailered and only for car shows or just the track, thats it...

HOWEVER you can still bring the 92-95`s over, but it takes time..
Jason,

I'm still trying to figure out how to do this...Customs is such a BITCH...

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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 02:07 AM
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hum..... Did you check out the customs web page?

But your all custom and stuff too right?
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 04:04 AM
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Why bother importing a 92? Does this make sense to anyone?
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 05:21 AM
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YEP... If you can get a kickass build one here for cheap then import it. Also the ones here in Japan arent as beat up as a lot of them in the states.

Actually I wouldnt import a 92.. It would be a 95 since that is the newest you can get to the US...

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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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the only ones you can import are the pre 96' cars. this is because if you import a car it must pass smog the same as a us car. the 96 would have to be obd-2, and they arent, theres no easy way to do it either. the other plus to the 92-95 cars is that they only cost about $5-8k.

jayspec: pm me or email paul ko, we looed into importing car one of us may be able to help on this end.

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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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I would think that it's a guesstimated number according to mods, there were no 320hp (even flywheel hp) FD ever produced from the factory

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Actually, thats not true. The highest advertisable was 276 bph or 280 hp due to the so well known Gentlemen's agreement, but infact the real number was close to 300-320. Don't forget improved turbos, cooling, and a factory downpipe and less restrictive exhaust were later used on the Japanese FD's.
Kind of like GM does all the time with F-Body and Vettes.
There is a reason they can run 12's off the factory floor, not only do they have more power, but some of the models weigh less as well.

Good luck on importing one though. Someone should see if Motorex would be interested in importing say 50 or 60 cars.
Laws, paperwork , and more laws and paperwork will make you wonder if its even worth it.
Though there are loop holes and ways around everything its not going to be easy or cheap.
I thought about being in the military and brining a newer J-Spec back, that would be legal for awhile.
Could always find a wrecked FD and swich VINs and such tell them you converted it to right hand drive, etc...

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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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People be verrrrry careful with that ebay posting. You may just end up with an expensive lawn figure for your flower bed.

If it's anything like my car and it looks just like mine without the R1 lip .. it's 265 hp R1, RS or maybe even an RB

THIS HAS TO BE A BIG FAT LIE -->> "This JDM Automobile is rated as 4.5 condition"

The auctions in Japan will NEVER Rate this car as a 4.5 not with it being a '92..and especially NOT with 48,000 miles and all those scratches.. NEVER.

With the age and miles on this car, it will sell at the auction in Japan for about 700,000 ($5,829.45 US)-900,000 YEN ($ 7,495.00 US )

Don't be fooled by this ad, these 91-93's are cheap as hell and dime a dozen in Japan. 95-98 cost a bit more but not much ( 2,000,000 Y). 99-2001 are the ones that sell for 3,000,000+ ..as well as the RZ's. There is an 2000 RZ for sale right now for $30,000 USD with ZERO miles on it... ex-showroom car...and there are a few knocking about like that. Haven't found any of those Bathurst types though.

Oh, it's about $2500 USD to ship from Japan to the Caribbean/US side of the world.

If you really want one and you are in the US of A, I'd suggest you bite the bullet and buy something from Motorex ...as they already spent the money requied to do the crash testing (3 of each) and mods to lights, side impact etc..

Email me or pm me if you all have questions about importing.

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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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Hey guys had a question could you import a 7 without a motor and put one of the legal versions in over here in the US?? Since I've been having trouble finding car i like. And since there susspose to be common in Japan.

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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 04:58 PM
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"NO its not posible for it to be street legal to drive in the states. It much be trailered and only for car shows or just the track, thats it... "


Well, if some might remember I was in the proccess of importing 96+ fds.
Please cheack the link I had made alot of statments imvoling problems I have encountered..

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=37303


Right now my Efforts to import and leaglize 96+ FD3s, is on a hault.. I will hopefully continue my efforts soon and actuly get a 2002 Spirit R for my self and some 96+s over here.....


Gun to anser your question No, you can't bring just the body over and exspect to get it leagal. At the time I stoped working on my importing of fds was at the point of getting the legal documention to actuly do that but its time consuming and costs.....
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Old Aug 11, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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I sent the seller from Ebay an email and told him basically what I stated above.. boy did he get pissed.

This guy is a scammer. He's trying to get folks to put down a deposit and NOT refund your money when you realize you bought an expensive lawn figure .

Careful
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 04:06 AM
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This is for the people that speak before they know...hehe

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/.../ELIG0206.html

BUT anyway, it is very able to import a 95- and older RX7 but not the newer for to reasons.. NOW they have to be crashed tested! and also they know the emissions are no good so they stopped them at the 95...

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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 04:08 AM
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One thing... RE-Amemiya has imported a few 93-95 to the states and brought a couple here, but they stopped since taxes are too high, they now ship to Australia since import tax is almost non-existant I guess... Thats what they said...

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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 04:42 AM
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Why bother importing a 92? Does this make sense to anyone?
Because you can buy a 92 for about $4000.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 04:44 AM
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I thought about being in the military and brining a newer J-Spec back, that would be legal for awhile.
Could always find a wrecked FD and swich VINs and such tell them you converted it to right hand drive, etc...
Don't be fooled. The Military will NOT bring back your j-spec. They will NOT bring back your j-spec. They will NOT bring back your j-spec.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 05:08 AM
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Don't be fooled. The Military will NOT bring back your j-spec. They will NOT bring back your j-spec. They will NOT bring back your j-spec.
So you are gonna lose your car Van? Is that what you are saying? That frigin' blows! How much longer you got before you come home?

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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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I was checking out the nhtsa webpage and some of the registered importer web pages to see what it would take to get an imported car legalized here. (All this information I'm writing is based off of 30 minutes of checking this out- and what i read on webpages, so I could be misinterpreting what i saw, im saying that I'm no expert , and a lot of this stuff is just copy and pasted from a website)

cars less than 25 years old must comply with Federal motor vehicle safety standards to be imported permanently. Vehicles manufactured to meet the FMVSS will have a certification label affixed by the original manufacturer in the area of the driver-side door. Since the japanese rx-7 wont have this, it has to be imported as a nonconforming vehicle.

There is a list of cars that have already been stated by the vehicle manufacturers that they are similar to the american version and are thusly eligable for import. here RX-7 up to 95 is one of them.

The first step is to contract with a DOT registered importer, who will do all the work to make the car comply with the dot and epa standards.

The car arrives in the port in the U.S. In order to get the car out of customs you need a signed contract between you and the Registered Importer, a power of attorney, copy of foreign registration or title, copy of your identification document (social security #), An original Bill of Lading or a copy of the Express Seaway Bill or A copy of an arrival notice, and a copy of the bill of sale. That is used to figure out the tax that needs to be paid (which is 2.5% of the value).

Then the car is released to the Registered Importer for modification. During the time the car is released from customs and until all modifications are complete, a bond is needed of 150% the price of the car.

The DOT conversion is all the safety aspects of the vehicle. After all the modifications are completed, a compliance package (which includes the photographs) is submitted to the DOT in Washington. Upon reviewing the compliance package (which can take up to 30 days), the Department Of Transportation issues a bond release and the DOT conversion is completed.

Here is a checklist of general DOT required modifications:

1) Remove and replace the speedometer
2) Install a warning light with the word "BRAKE" into the speedometer
3) Replace headlight assemblies with DOT certified lights
4) Install a high mounting, third brake light
5) Modify/Replace door locks with US certified door locks
6) Install a tire information label
7) Replace the passenger side mirror to reflect "OBJECTS IN MIRROR ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR"
8) Install a seat belt & key warning buzzer
9) Install door beams into the doors to comply with side impact protection regulations (FMVSS-214)
10) Install a rollover valve
11) Install engraved VIN (vehicle identification number) plate
12) Install VIN location label
13) Install a certification label
14) Remove and document bumpers
15) If necessary, modify and reinforce bumpers to comply with US federal bumper standards (FMVSS-581)
16) Determine if there are any outstanding recalls on this vehicle
17) Remedy all outstanding recalls
18) Submit a compliance package to the DOT, documenting with photographs all the modifications performed to bring the vehicle into compliance with all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

The EPA part of the conversion deals mainly with emissions of the vehicle. In general to certify the vehicle with the EPA, the catalytic converters are replaced along with the O2 sensors. After all the emission parts have been replaced, the vehicle goes into an EPA Certified Laboratory and gets tested. After the vehicle gets a passing result from the laboratory, the paperwork gets submitted to the EPA and the vehicle awaits a brief hold period. After the vehicle is cleared with the EPA (can take up to 15 days), the vehicle be can released to you, will all the paperwork to be titled.

Two of the registered importers say that their average price for doing all the modifications to a car is $6,000.

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I would kill for a 2002 Spirit R. KILL!!!
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