If you were to sell your FD...
Originally Posted by wanklin
Post a picture of this thing Neil.
However, this one does dyno at 400+ HP and torque.
The 190E 2.3 16-valve had a stock curb weight of about 2800-lbs, like a FD Touring.
:-) neil
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Originally Posted by njstreetrx7
RICH U HIT IT RIGHT ON THE POINT. if my car was stock i wouldnt even have 2 blown motors. and blowing a motor doesnt contribute to bad reliability IF THE MOTOR IS DETONATED if i had a 350z motor and i overboosted anddetonated badly and the motor blew would u say the 350 is unreliable now? lets not compare the prices of replacing a g35 motor to an fd.. ....
Originally Posted by psquare8
m3
but for me DC5R > M3 anyday.
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we cant get those here for anything under 80k ^^
Originally Posted by spekdah
R33 GTR
still has the power and class and my wife /kids/and the shopping can still fit in it. At the moment its a bit of a squeeze in the FD
still has the power and class and my wife /kids/and the shopping can still fit in it. At the moment its a bit of a squeeze in the FD
Originally Posted by M104-AMG
This is not Donnie's but a customer's of his. Donnie re-worked the heads and had over 500HP. I wish I could find his pics.
However, this one does dyno at 400+ HP and torque.
The 190E 2.3 16-valve had a stock curb weight of about 2800-lbs, like a FD Touring.
:-) neil
However, this one does dyno at 400+ HP and torque.
The 190E 2.3 16-valve had a stock curb weight of about 2800-lbs, like a FD Touring.
:-) neil
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I don't ever plan to sell my FD. Too much time, blood, sweat, money, and fond memories 
the only thing i would trade my FD for is a CYM FD with all my mods.
Last edited by ihavetwins; Jan 14, 2007 at 07:55 PM.
Can you believe in RACE form the 2.5-16v EVO II made OVER 300+HP normally aspirated !
There is a guy in Europe wanting to turbo his EVO II, but everyone is telling him it is too rare of care to mess with (only 502 made).
The production 2.3-16v (these are 4-cylinders) engines have such good bottom-ends, that they can easily handle 400+HP . . .
I also have a friend who stuffed a 5.0L Ford V8 into a 190E, and re-worked the suspension. He takes this to NASA events, and when I was riding with him at Roebling Road Raceway, he pulled AWAY from a Porsche 930 turbo on the front straight.
Here's a QuickTime movie of Toby's car at Roebling Road.
Right-click and Save:
http://www.silcom.com/~neilv/Toby-190E.mov
Enjoy,
:-) neil
There is a guy in Europe wanting to turbo his EVO II, but everyone is telling him it is too rare of care to mess with (only 502 made).
The production 2.3-16v (these are 4-cylinders) engines have such good bottom-ends, that they can easily handle 400+HP . . .
I also have a friend who stuffed a 5.0L Ford V8 into a 190E, and re-worked the suspension. He takes this to NASA events, and when I was riding with him at Roebling Road Raceway, he pulled AWAY from a Porsche 930 turbo on the front straight.
Here's a QuickTime movie of Toby's car at Roebling Road.
Right-click and Save:
http://www.silcom.com/~neilv/Toby-190E.mov
Enjoy,
:-) neil
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I recently had to go through this decision. My FD's third motor needed rebuilding and I just didn't have it in me to go through yet another rebuild along with all the other things that needed fixing. I've had my FD for 10 years and thought that I'd never sell it.
Well, I needed a practical car that I could drive to work daily. My wife was cool to lend me her G35x when y car was down. But, I needed a DD. I also didn't have the garage space to keep the FD as a project car.
I decdied that I would budget <$35k for a replacement vehicle. My choices were:
M3 -e36
G35 Coupe
90's NSX
Audi S4
LS1/FD3S
C5 Z06
I ended up buying a Black 2003 Z06 w/ only 7041 miles in the ODO for $33,500 and couldn't be happier. I love the drivability of the car. It has tons of lowend torque and get better gas mileage than my FD ever got. Plus, every thing works on the car. There are no issues for me to address other than installing parts that I have purchased:
Hurst Short Shifter
Vararam CAI
IPOD hook up
The C5 Z06 weighs 3,100 lbs and comes with 405 hp & 400 ft/lbs STOCK from the factory. (355-360 rwhp)
With some basic mods I could be at close to 400 rwhp:
Let the modding begin!!!
John
Well, I needed a practical car that I could drive to work daily. My wife was cool to lend me her G35x when y car was down. But, I needed a DD. I also didn't have the garage space to keep the FD as a project car.
I decdied that I would budget <$35k for a replacement vehicle. My choices were:
M3 -e36
G35 Coupe
90's NSX
Audi S4
LS1/FD3S
C5 Z06
I ended up buying a Black 2003 Z06 w/ only 7041 miles in the ODO for $33,500 and couldn't be happier. I love the drivability of the car. It has tons of lowend torque and get better gas mileage than my FD ever got. Plus, every thing works on the car. There are no issues for me to address other than installing parts that I have purchased:
Hurst Short Shifter
Vararam CAI
IPOD hook up
The C5 Z06 weighs 3,100 lbs and comes with 405 hp & 400 ft/lbs STOCK from the factory. (355-360 rwhp)
With some basic mods I could be at close to 400 rwhp:
- Intake
- Long tube headers & hi-flow cat backs
- Tune
Let the modding begin!!!
John
Last edited by jpandes; Jan 14, 2007 at 10:54 PM.
Originally Posted by jpandes
I ended up buying a Black 2003 Z06 w/ only 7041 miles in the ODO for $33,500 and couldn't be happier. I love the drivability of the car. It has tons of lowend torque and get better gas mileage than my FD ever got. Plus, every thing works on the car. There are no issues for me to address other than installing parts that I have purchased:
Hurst Short Shifter
Vararam CAI
IPOD hook up
Hurst Short Shifter
Vararam CAI
IPOD hook up
Good luck with the Vararam. Those things are a pain to install. On my father's Z06, we have the Vararam, a larger throttle body, B&M short shifter and some interior changes. I didn't do the install for the Vararam but the shop that did b*tched and moaned about it.
if not another FD.. I think the lotus would be nice, I am just not for sure I like the front or a second gen gts viper, I know they are different animals but I like them both but I am in no hurry to replace mine but it will be something nice and have to perform
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Is the price of the Lotus used or new? I thought they were more.
Originally Posted by DCrosby
In this order, but I'd keep the FD... too much Money and Blood sweat and definitely tears in it... to sell for less than what I have in it... $50+K
1) Ferarri 308 GTB ($25-35K)
2) TVR Sagaris ($70-90k)
3) 90's Viper ($30-50k)
4) Ariel Atom ($35-45k)
5) Lotus Exiege ($35-40k)
Prices are roughly what they can be had for...
1) Ferarri 308 GTB ($25-35K)
2) TVR Sagaris ($70-90k)
3) 90's Viper ($30-50k)
4) Ariel Atom ($35-45k)
5) Lotus Exiege ($35-40k)
Prices are roughly what they can be had for...
Originally Posted by njstreetrx7
wanklin were u refering to my car or the benz..lol.b?
Originally Posted by DCrosby
Noice !
Well i read them both and it seems like you said; a lot of talk and little action, or maybe people who are true "Enthusiasts" do what someone sugested to take it all appart and ship it piecemeal... and re-assemble... making it a "Kit" Car...
Personally I'd then "kit" a LHD one from Germany or Holland (It's closer to the seaport)
Possibility exists, and it's possibly the same reason nobody said anything because they don't want retribution, same reason passing smog without a "Cat" is "IMPOSSIBLE"
Well i read them both and it seems like you said; a lot of talk and little action, or maybe people who are true "Enthusiasts" do what someone sugested to take it all appart and ship it piecemeal... and re-assemble... making it a "Kit" Car...
Personally I'd then "kit" a LHD one from Germany or Holland (It's closer to the seaport)
Possibility exists, and it's possibly the same reason nobody said anything because they don't want retribution, same reason passing smog without a "Cat" is "IMPOSSIBLE"
Even kitting it won't make it legal here in the states. Check Ramy's post a few pages back. Laws have changed.
You know if people really had those cars over here there would be pictures of them all over the place.