I have a starting problem
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I have a starting problem
Recently, i remove the cold start system, and the car idle is very rough at the begining ?? (i believe it is normal since it had no cold start sys.) later on the idle is going up and down around 850 - 1200, once the car done with warm up the idle stay around 800-850.
In some reason, the car is hard to start when hot too. it needs to crack for 5-6 sec. BTW: it has a lot of gas smell too, i know is running too rich; can i use wideband and PFC to reduce it ??
BTW, the car cant run properly under 3000rpm, but once the idle hit 3k or up it is fine. Is it any method to reduce the noise from the exhaust ? (i have T78, race port, DP, MP, and stock exhuast [still loud once it hit 3k])
thx Sindy
In some reason, the car is hard to start when hot too. it needs to crack for 5-6 sec. BTW: it has a lot of gas smell too, i know is running too rich; can i use wideband and PFC to reduce it ??
BTW, the car cant run properly under 3000rpm, but once the idle hit 3k or up it is fine. Is it any method to reduce the noise from the exhaust ? (i have T78, race port, DP, MP, and stock exhuast [still loud once it hit 3k])
thx Sindy
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With a T-78, DP and MP it's going to be loud evven with the stock cat back. Should be bearable though. Not sure what to tell you other than try adjusting the adjustment screw on the TB under the Elbow and see if that will help level it out.
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Originally Posted by BlueSprite
Recently, i remove the cold start system, and the car idle is very rough at the begining ?? (i believe it is normal since it had no cold start sys.) later on the idle is going up and down around 850 - 1200, once the car done with warm up the idle stay around 800-850.
In some reason, the car is hard to start when hot too. it needs to crack for 5-6 sec. BTW: it has a lot of gas smell too, i know is running too rich; can i use wideband and PFC to reduce it ??
BTW, the car cant run properly under 3000rpm, but once the idle hit 3k or up it is fine. Is it any method to reduce the noise from the exhaust ? (i have T78, race port, DP, MP, and stock exhuast [still loud once it hit 3k])
thx Sindy
In some reason, the car is hard to start when hot too. it needs to crack for 5-6 sec. BTW: it has a lot of gas smell too, i know is running too rich; can i use wideband and PFC to reduce it ??
BTW, the car cant run properly under 3000rpm, but once the idle hit 3k or up it is fine. Is it any method to reduce the noise from the exhaust ? (i have T78, race port, DP, MP, and stock exhuast [still loud once it hit 3k])
thx Sindy
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Your post above seems to imply that you are running a large ported motor with a T-78 on the stock ecu or an untuned PFC.
I would guess that your engine is probably on the way out, given your symptoms of hard hot starting, rough idle, and poor low-end power.
I would guess that your engine is probably on the way out, given your symptoms of hard hot starting, rough idle, and poor low-end power.
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I'm natively speaking french so I'll do by best for you to understand me. I have had the same problem on my Impreza. It surely is one of these 3 problems : either the catalyst ( there is restriction )... you should simply take it off.. you dont need one if your under 1995. Then, i'd check the mass air flow ( air flow meter ) and the oxygen sensor. It must be one of those things. Restriction always cause starting and idle problems.
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Originally Posted by Trahan
I'm natively speaking french so I'll do by best for you to understand me. I have had the same problem on my Impreza. It surely is one of these 3 problems : either the catalyst ( there is restriction )... you should simply take it off.. you dont need one if your under 1995. Then, i'd check the mass air flow ( air flow meter ) and the oxygen sensor. It must be one of those things. Restriction always cause starting and idle problems.
First of all, he lives in California. It's not as simple as "removing the cat," because he still needs it for emissions (US emissions standards started in the late 70s. All cars after that are required to have one). Second, we don't have mass air flow meters on FDs. They are a speed-density system (not MAF). Please don't give advice for FD owners based on Impreza experiences. It really doesn't work that well.
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Originally Posted by saxyman990
Ho boy, where to start?
First of all, he lives in California. It's not as simple as "removing the cat," because he still needs it for emissions (US emissions standards started in the late 70s. All cars after that are required to have one). Second, we don't have mass air flow meters on FDs. They are a speed-density system (not MAF). Please don't give advice for FD owners based on Impreza experiences. It really doesn't work that well.
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First of all, he lives in California. It's not as simple as "removing the cat," because he still needs it for emissions (US emissions standards started in the late 70s. All cars after that are required to have one). Second, we don't have mass air flow meters on FDs. They are a speed-density system (not MAF). Please don't give advice for FD owners based on Impreza experiences. It really doesn't work that well.
-Rob
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Originally Posted by CantGoStraight
I'm not sure why you guys are telling him to remove the main cat ???? he's running a DP, and MP with the stock catback.? ? ? ?
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Originally Posted by saxyman990
I wasn't (althought, I didn't really read his initial post). I was correcting mis-information from the canadian Impreza dude.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
Your post above seems to imply that you are running a large ported motor with a T-78 on the stock ecu or an untuned PFC.
I would guess that your engine is probably on the way out, given your symptoms of hard hot starting, rough idle, and poor low-end power.
I would guess that your engine is probably on the way out, given your symptoms of hard hot starting, rough idle, and poor low-end power.
I m thinking should i go buy a wideband with o2 to get it tune first !? Or put back the Stock ECU to drive in break-in period ??
thx
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Originally Posted by Trahan
I'm natively speaking french so I'll do by best for you to understand me. I have had the same problem on my Impreza. It surely is one of these 3 problems : either the catalyst ( there is restriction )... you should simply take it off.. you dont need one if your under 1995. Then, i'd check the mass air flow ( air flow meter ) and the oxygen sensor. It must be one of those things. Restriction always cause starting and idle problems.
I remove the cat, i have T78 (no AFM), the O2 is fine working. And i m thinking about the fuel injectors, putting too much fuel. i guess!?? i just have to do adjustment on PFC, but i m thinking about to do in dyno shop but the car is in break-in period now....
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Originally Posted by BlueSprite
The engine has those kind of symptoms, but i just had an engine rebuilt. I m thinking will that cause by the injectors, maybe !? For sure, i have an untuned PFC. BTW, when i start up the car when cold, it starts up fine w/o any problem.
I m thinking should i go buy a wideband with o2 to get it tune first !? Or put back the Stock ECU to drive in break-in period ??
thx
I m thinking should i go buy a wideband with o2 to get it tune first !? Or put back the Stock ECU to drive in break-in period ??
thx
The PFC doesn't use the AWS system on cold starts so that is not your cold-start problem.
No offense, but it sounds like you've gotten in over your head going single turbo and you are not doing things properly!
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Yes, the things that i did is not properly, and now i m trying to fix it up.
Well, i was thinking the FPR and the injectors, but i remember i did a flow test on those before install it back to the car..... Since you brought this up, is it possible i can check on the fuel injectors is leaking or not ??
Just remind you guys, i have running 550/1300 with stock FPR; and it is dumping to much fuel
Well, i was thinking the FPR and the injectors, but i remember i did a flow test on those before install it back to the car..... Since you brought this up, is it possible i can check on the fuel injectors is leaking or not ??
Just remind you guys, i have running 550/1300 with stock FPR; and it is dumping to much fuel
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