How loud is loud?
11-05-03, 07:10 PM
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How loud is loud?
I keep reading how you FD guys say you're cars are loud with a full exhaust ect.. does anyone have readings from a db meter? I want to see how loud it is compared to a full exhaust NA FC.
I did a search but everything I found was like this..
"on a scale of 1-10 my car is a 4"
I did a search but everything I found was like this..
"on a scale of 1-10 my car is a 4"
11-05-03, 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by 0110-M-P
On a scale of 1-10 mine would be an 8. Straight Exhaust on stock turbos. It will be 10 once I get my Single turbo and have the wastegate open to the atmosphere. But yea, FD's with straight exhaust are damn loud.
On a scale of 1-10 mine would be an 8. Straight Exhaust on stock turbos. It will be 10 once I get my Single turbo and have the wastegate open to the atmosphere. But yea, FD's with straight exhaust are damn loud.
from what I've experienced with my car and the scale you just used, my car should be at like 15
11-05-03, 07:33 PM
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Turbos absorb some of the sound, so a NA FC with full exhaust will always be louder. Not by much, but definitely louder.
Based upon some sound tests we've done with bikes (and remembering a friend's bridgeported RX-2 that he autocrossed way back when), I'd estimate a healthy NA ported FC with straight exhaust is probably around the 115 db mark at full song.
Based upon some sound tests we've done with bikes (and remembering a friend's bridgeported RX-2 that he autocrossed way back when), I'd estimate a healthy NA ported FC with straight exhaust is probably around the 115 db mark at full song.
11-05-03, 07:43 PM
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he wants to know an FD db reading not FC......he has an FC and wants to know how loud it is compared to an FD. Maybe the FD's are too loud, cause no one seems to listen sometimes. I'm not trying to be mean so please don't take it that way, just saying sometimes people miss or misread things. Read carefully is all I'm saying. Unless I misunderstood YOU.
11-05-03, 07:59 PM
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Well, I guess I figured he could guesstimate from that on where a straight exhaust FD will be, since turbos will absorb some of the sound. Not really too concerned with exactly how much louder one car really from the next...
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11-05-03, 09:57 PM
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At school I was using a fairly accurate decibel meter good to well over 150 on a project, but didn’t even think about testing the FD.
Maybe I can borrow it from the professor, and test out the RB duel tip once Jason gets it to me.
Does anybody know the estimated arrival dates of those CBs purchased through the GB?
Maybe I can borrow it from the professor, and test out the RB duel tip once Jason gets it to me.
Does anybody know the estimated arrival dates of those CBs purchased through the GB?
11-05-03, 11:30 PM
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I have a couple of results.
Straight thru exhaust with a rice style fart can (Top Speed Cat back) measured 105 DB at Idle at a 45 degree angle from 2 feet away.
Switched to a Racing Beat cat back, MP, and DP. and measured 96DB at idle, at 45 degree angle from 2 feet away.
I will be adding a the RX 7 store resonated midpipe next week, and will take a couple more readings. I still don't think I will fall under the legal noise requirements for california, but it will be quiet enough to detract some attention.
Straight thru exhaust with a rice style fart can (Top Speed Cat back) measured 105 DB at Idle at a 45 degree angle from 2 feet away.
Switched to a Racing Beat cat back, MP, and DP. and measured 96DB at idle, at 45 degree angle from 2 feet away.
I will be adding a the RX 7 store resonated midpipe next week, and will take a couple more readings. I still don't think I will fall under the legal noise requirements for california, but it will be quiet enough to detract some attention.
11-06-03, 12:53 PM
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Thanks for the info guys, I wish I could remember my physics stuff.. from what I remember increasing a db is like 3x the volume of the previous measurement.
My car would run 95-100 db at idle and just under 120 maxing out 2nd gear from about 15-20 feet away.
http://zeffy.novus-logic.com/media/fc%20loud.wmv
My car would run 95-100 db at idle and just under 120 maxing out 2nd gear from about 15-20 feet away.
http://zeffy.novus-logic.com/media/fc%20loud.wmv
11-06-03, 01:08 PM
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First of all, there is a big difference between measuring unweighted decibels and a-weighted decibels. For those of you measuring in the 90-100 dB range at IDLE, that is measuring unweighted (or c-weighted, which is pretty close for most purposes). Any noise standard at a race track or for state noise control purposes, will be a-weighted.
Also, distance and angle to the tailpipe will be required for any measurement to be compared with another (as Jesuscookies measured). For example, Laguna Seca has a 92 dBA noise limit at I believe 50 feet. Now that translates to 110-116 dBA at 3 feet from the exhaust opening.
I would measure my exhaust for you but I still have a stock cat, so not much of a useful comparison for you.
Also, distance and angle to the tailpipe will be required for any measurement to be compared with another (as Jesuscookies measured). For example, Laguna Seca has a 92 dBA noise limit at I believe 50 feet. Now that translates to 110-116 dBA at 3 feet from the exhaust opening.
I would measure my exhaust for you but I still have a stock cat, so not much of a useful comparison for you.
11-06-03, 01:26 PM
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just cought me at a bored moment so i went and checked mine, i got completely catless exhaust (apexi n1 muffler) stock twins....
at idle on the c weighting mode it read 108 db
this is 700 rpms.
yeah, its loud
at idle on the c weighting mode it read 108 db
this is 700 rpms.
yeah, its loud
11-06-03, 02:26 PM
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I didn't check the legal requirements for measuring a cars noise level, go ahead and search if you like. 3dB is double the noise power (twice as loud, I suppose). You can just notice a 3dB change (which is why the scale ended up that way - done by the telephone engineers way back in the day). My Radio Shack digital sound level meter does both "A" and "C" weighting, but unfortunately, my car is off sleeping in the garage till next April. If you do test a car don't get too close. Check the regs. and you'll see the distance is around 20 ft. Remember your inverse square laws? The sound level drops very quickly with distance. BTW 108 dB (c or a) at a reasonable distance, will cause permanant hearing loss. I presume that was right close to the pipe?
My ears don't bleed so the car is quiet ;-).
My ears don't bleed so the car is quiet ;-).
11-06-03, 02:29 PM
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that measurement was at 3 feet away from the tip and at a 45 degree angle, i measured this way because its what i thought was the correct distance for mesurement coiensiding with government standards
11-06-03, 08:18 PM
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that measurement was at 3 feet away from the tip and at a 45 degree angle, i measured this way because its what i thought was the correct distance for mesurement coiensiding with government standards
that measurement was at 3 feet away from the tip and at a 45 degree angle, i measured this way because its what i thought was the correct distance for mesurement coiensiding with government standards
11-06-03, 10:34 PM
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when your passenger actually looses a bit of hearing because you are driving spiritedly and with yoru windows down. (this actually happened when i rode in my brothers old fd when he had a 3 inch dp and 4 inch mp/catback straight thru type)!
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