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Old 10-15-04, 04:57 PM
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how do you mate the drive shaft to the clutch?

i m trying to reinstall the transmission. the driveshaft of the transmission doesn't seem to want to click in or mate all the way. any tips or tricks to make it smoother. tried it twice now. just won't seat all the way. i think the joy of working on your own car and learning is gettting old thanks at least i will have arnold pecs by the time i m done bench pressing the transmission. kvn
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Turn the input shaft on the trannie or move the flywheel a little
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how do you turn the input shaft while it's halfway on there. i can't get access to it? kvn
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You can turn the engine a little bit.

If you have to pull the tranny back out, you may want to try installing the clutch in the tranny, then putting the tranny in. It will "self align" with this installation.
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you did use a clutch alignment tool right?
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well its still a bitch ones you get it in there... thats when you get extra long bellhousing bolts and slowly and even;y tighten it down... then replace them one by one with the stock bolts....
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I'm guessing that you're using a clutch alignment tool when you're attaching the clutch pack to the flywheel, Correct? If not, you'll never get the trans back on.

The trick to moving the input shaft is to keep the trans in gear, 3 or 4 work, and then move the output shaft on the trans while pushing it. When it's aligned correctly, it will slide together. Do not try to force it. You'll end up creating a problem that you'll need to fix soon and have to redo everything.

How far off are you? Can you tell if the input shaft isn't getting through the clutch or is it just stuck on the pilot bearing?
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Wate.... Are you putting the engine on the transmission, or the tranmission onto the driveshaft? (driveshaft being the part that runs to the differential, not the input shaft of the transmission...)


well its still a bitch ones you get it in there... thats when you get extra long bellhousing bolts and slowly and even;y tighten it down... then replace them one by one with the stock bolts....

If you are talking about the transmission being put on the engine DON'T do ^^^^!!!!!


If the input shaft doesn't slide into the clutch, and you force it, your either going to **** up your clutch disk (the splines on it), or worse your going to chew up the threads on your input shaft. If you line the clutch up right with a clutch alinement tool, you shouldn't have any trouble. It should just slide in, just give it some good wiggleing.


If you can't get the driveshaft into the back of the tranny, your hurtin....
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Originally Posted by Cory Simpson
Wate.... Are you putting the engine on the transmission, or the tranmission onto the driveshaft? (driveshaft being the part that runs to the differential, not the input shaft of the transmission...)





If you are talking about the transmission being put on the engine DON'T do ^^^^!!!!!


If the input shaft doesn't slide into the clutch, and you force it, your either going to **** up your clutch disk (the splines on it), or worse your going to chew up the threads on your input shaft. If you line the clutch up right with a clutch alinement tool, you shouldn't have any trouble. It should just slide in, just give it some good wiggleing.


If you can't get the driveshaft into the back of the tranny, your hurtin....
please read my post, once the input shaft is mated to the clutch disc and is in there straight... then DO THAT... you wont mess a damn thing up doing it that way....

Im sorry but out of all the engines I have R & R'ed I have never had one go in smoothly getting the input shaft lineed up with the clutch disk is the easy part.
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i used the clutch alignment tool, i m not far off. it looks like it keeps hitting pilot bearing. just need to go in a little more. i quit for the night. it's hard doing it by yourself w/o help. that transmission is heavy. i took some creatine so i can bench press it somemore tomorrow
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Originally Posted by adam c
You can turn the engine a little bit.

If you have to pull the tranny back out, you may want to try installing the clutch in the tranny, then putting the tranny in. It will "self align" with this installation.

if i do this how the heck do i attach the clutch to the flywheel. the transmission housing will be in the way. thanks for the tips. . kvn
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There is a shield that you have already removed to expose the flywheel. It is on the lower passenger side of the tranny. When the tranny is bolted to the engine, and the shield is removed, you will have access to the pressure plate and flywheel. Simply line up the pressure plate holes to the flywheel, and put in the bolts one at a time. Tighten each bolt about 1/2 way, then go to the next one. Then tighten each one most of the way. Then torque them to specs. The pressure plate should turn easily to align it with the first hole. After that, the engine compression will make it a little tougher to turn. Be sure that you do not install the slave cylinder before bolting down the pressure plate.

Good luck, Adam
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thanks adam.
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Originally Posted by fd3virgin
it looks like it keeps hitting pilot bearing.
if you can see the pilot bearing then you are doing something wrong
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i can't see it but i won't go in it. maybe my alignment is wrong. kvn
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woo hoo... i got the tranny in. now i have more problems gotta love the fd. the thorwout bearing won't snap into the pressure plate. you can only push on that bar thru the service window so hard. any suggestions......i might go buy a small crow bar. kvn
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Originally Posted by fd3virgin
woo hoo... i got the tranny in. now i have more problems gotta love the fd. the thorwout bearing won't snap into the pressure plate. you can only push on that bar thru the service window so hard. any suggestions......i might go buy a small crow bar. kvn
it wont snap in or it won't stay in?
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it won't snap in.....once it snaps in it should stay. kvn
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Originally Posted by fd3virgin
it won't snap in.....once it snaps in it should stay. kvn
lol not neccessarily

it doesn't take some pressure to get it in there, use a screw driver and push on the fork.....

EDIT

Pull on the fork
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uh oh... won't stay snapped in huh? The ring might be bent or it might be too large in diameter. You might have some frustrating times ahead of you. This happened to me once, and I was able to fix it without removing the tranny again but only through patience and having a nice selection of screwdrivers to poke around in there Get a good flashlight!

Download and study my video here and then try again once you have a better idea of what you need to do...

http://www.zeroglabs.com/rx7/pullclutch.htm
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what up brian? frustrating times allright. i got a small crow bar and push the **** out it. hammer it and nothing seems to work. i fit before outside when i test fitted onto the transmission. barely got the tranny back in the last thing i want is to yank it back out. i am downloading your vid. thanks....it's gonna take a while. i think i bent some of the metal pieces on the ring. are u busy tomorrow kvn who ever helps me i will hook u up with a free bleaching kit. everyone needs a hollywood smile 500 bucks at most dental offices. kvn
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