Grounding/Hyperground Question?
02-20-04, 12:16 AM
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Grounding/Hyperground Question?
Alright Hyperground claims they use 99.99% copper and its the best conductor (actually Gold is better 
). Anyways is there ANY difference in their copper and the copper I would buy at Radio shack which I could make a kit for ALOT cheaper??
). Anyways is there ANY difference in their copper and the copper I would buy at Radio shack which I could make a kit for ALOT cheaper??
02-20-04, 01:48 AM
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Garfinkle uses 1-0 welding cable from the battery out , pos and neg . He has sold some sets for $20 with hand made ends to fit .He also changes the wire from the alt to the fuse block,4 gauge for that .
02-20-04, 04:49 AM
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um actually if im not mistaken, isnt copper more conductive than gold??? the reason they use gold is cause it doesnt corrode like copper.... and i think silver is ever more conductive than copper. i guess thats my "final answer" ...if im remembering this wrong someone correct me... it been a few years... -heath
02-20-04, 05:26 AM
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Re: Grounding/Hyperground Question?
Originally posted by Fatman0203
Alright Hyperground claims they use 99.99% copper and its the best conductor (actually Gold is better ). Anyways is there ANY difference in their copper and the copper I would buy at Radio shack which I could make a kit for ALOT cheaper??
Alright Hyperground claims they use 99.99% copper and its the best conductor (actually Gold is better
). Anyways is there ANY difference in their copper and the copper I would buy at Radio shack which I could make a kit for ALOT cheaper??
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02-20-04, 10:21 AM
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Remember, the bottom line here is that you're trying to eliminate high resistance in any ground path to prevent ground loops (voltage differences between different ground points). The difference in resistance for these short lengths between 4-ga and 8 or 12-ga is not significant except for very high-current paths.
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02-20-04, 10:28 AM
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Garfinkle uses 1-0 welding cable from the battery out , pos and neg . He has sold some sets for $20 with hand made ends to fit .He also changes the wire from the alt to the fuse block,4 gauge for that .
Garfinkle uses 1-0 welding cable from the battery out , pos and neg . He has sold some sets for $20 with hand made ends to fit .He also changes the wire from the alt to the fuse block,4 gauge for that .
02-20-04, 02:27 PM
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Go to a circuit city they will have specific ground wire you can use which is made for high powered amps (any gauge you want). Get the gold fittings that are for grounding amps. It will probably be cheaper than buying a kit.
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Just buy some speaker wire, and some ring terminals, i used marine ones since they wont corrode, after i did the grounding, 5 spots on the engine,including one that went to the negative battery terminal, i noticed no more hesitation or breakup at 14 psi. This is running very rich untuned. From my understanding grounding the exhaust near the o2 sensor helps as well.
02-20-04, 07:06 PM
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duboisr...I used to have a theory that Garfinkle was this imaginary character that you just made up or something. Or that he is superman and you are Clark Kent...
BTW just in case he is worried at all which I'm sure he's not, I am still waiting on my uim to get back to me from being polsihed and thats why I haven't contacted him about the 2nd half of parts for the toque brace. My name is Patrick Kenney
BTW just in case he is worried at all which I'm sure he's not, I am still waiting on my uim to get back to me from being polsihed and thats why I haven't contacted him about the 2nd half of parts for the toque brace. My name is Patrick Kenney
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Gold (AU) is most conductive.
Silver (AG) is next most conductive.
Copper (CU) is third.
Copper is the cheapest and that is why it is used in wiring more than the others.
Ever used solid silverware to stir a cup of hot coffee??
Silver (AG) is next most conductive.
Copper (CU) is third.
Copper is the cheapest and that is why it is used in wiring more than the others.
Ever used solid silverware to stir a cup of hot coffee??
02-20-04, 07:34 PM
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Silver is the most conductive.
Personally I just use the stock grounds + an additional ground from negative terminal to shock tower. Never had any issues.
Personally I just use the stock grounds + an additional ground from negative terminal to shock tower. Never had any issues.
02-20-04, 10:31 PM
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man i was selling these kits for 40 dollars shipped
on this forum and no body wanted them
i sold like 40 boxes on supra forums in a heart beat
i have heard gain,s of up to 10 hp to the wheels
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on this forum and no body wanted them
i sold like 40 boxes on supra forums in a heart beat
i have heard gain,s of up to 10 hp to the wheels
`johnny
02-20-04, 10:59 PM
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Holy ****! Can you go one day without mentioning Garfinkles name.
Holy ****! Can you go one day without mentioning Garfinkles name.
jkisineffect, got any more of those kits?
opps.
02-20-04, 11:10 PM
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Any good hardware store will have what you need. Elliots Hardware in the Dallas area even has all kinds of different colors to match your motor color scheme. No need for a kit. I spent like 20 bucks and got more than I needed. Wire and connectors. Just cleaning your existing grounds may solve your problems.
Anyway this topic has been discussed in depth several times. Search for some old threads using "hyperground".
Anyway this topic has been discussed in depth several times. Search for some old threads using "hyperground".
02-20-04, 11:14 PM
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I really do not think these amount of grounds are totally excessive.
Use a multimeter and ohm out the engine bay - you will then see what I mean.
Most likely any problem "fixed" existed in a pre-existing ground point.
Use a multimeter and ohm out the engine bay - you will then see what I mean.
Most likely any problem "fixed" existed in a pre-existing ground point.
02-21-04, 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by cpa7man
Any good hardware store will have what you need. Elliots Hardware in the Dallas area even has all kinds of different colors to match your motor color scheme. No need for a kit. I spent like 20 bucks and got more than I needed. Wire and connectors. Just cleaning your existing grounds may solve your problems.
Anyway this topic has been discussed in depth several times. Search for some old threads using "hyperground".
Any good hardware store will have what you need. Elliots Hardware in the Dallas area even has all kinds of different colors to match your motor color scheme. No need for a kit. I spent like 20 bucks and got more than I needed. Wire and connectors. Just cleaning your existing grounds may solve your problems.
Anyway this topic has been discussed in depth several times. Search for some old threads using "hyperground".
02-21-04, 01:44 PM
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hey can some one post pics on how there wiring looks.
i want to do this to my 7 but im not sure how too. can someone give me some tips like wire length, and where/how to connect.
tks
i want to do this to my 7 but im not sure how too. can someone give me some tips like wire length, and where/how to connect.
tks