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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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Got the Downpipe on WOW!

I got my Downpipe on yesterday and wow what a difference. I can finally hear my turbos spooling. Its been two days and my Stereo hasnt been on. Not only the sound is nice but the the boost picks up quicker. I swear I gain 10-15hp. The guy at the muffler shop was bitchin about the install because it took them from 1pm-5pm to finish. Costed $150 cad in labour alone but I think it was well worth it since I dont have the proper tools and I would break something. Now I also have a midpipe and I was told from my previous post not to put it on becuase it will caus boost creep. I was wondering if I kept on the oem cat will that have enough restriction for the midpipe? or what if I got a retriction plate? No other mods on the car besides the engine is a JDM in a USDM RX7 and I have Apexi intake and a after market muffler unsure of the brand.

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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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i have a custom intake and a downpipe with no spiking. It did up the boost to 10.5 psi or so but no problems yet.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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Leave the main cat on the car.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Leave the main cat on the car.
So I can put on the mid pipe on as long as I keep the main cat on, Is that what you are saying? Thanks for the reply
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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You can't put both a midpipe and a main cat on, its one or the other.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Black1993rx7
i have a custom intake and a downpipe with no spiking. It did up the boost to 10.5 psi or so but no problems yet.
Do you have a midpipe as well or just the Downpipe?
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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You can't put both a midpipe and a main cat on, its one or the other.
Oh I understand now. I thought the midpipe bolted behind the main cat. What if I got a High flow cat will this make any difference or affect anything?
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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A HFC would be a LOT safer than a m/p, but I'm not too experienced about using them with the stock ECU.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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If you go to a midpipe, make sure you upgrade your ecu first, not the other way around.

Read the faqs, then read them again, then anything you don't totally understand, search it out, then read the faq again, and again, search some more, read some more, etc.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.
forget just a radiator. get in on ramys v mount
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 2fast4u_rx7
I The guy at the muffler shop was bitchin about the install because it took them from 1pm-5pm to finish. Costed $150 cad in labour alone but I think it was well worth it since I dont have the proper tools and I would break something. .
Find another shop.

I did it myself in 2 hours. The tools required are minimal.
This was the second mod I did to the FD, the first being the vacuum hoses.

It all seems so long ago...
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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I have the HKS 3" downpipe, but I'm unable to screw the upper back bolt on because it goes into the pipe itself. What's up with that? I have to custom-make a bolt that I can screw on...not good (JDM)
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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If you leave the main cat in your boost is much less likely spike or rise.

So don't do a high flow until you have an aftermarket boost controller, IMO.

Dave
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Enthu
I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.
Same here.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Enthu
I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.
Using tuning to cover for boost spikes is stupid.

Use a proper boost controller.

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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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a stock catback with a down and midpipe will give enough restriction to prevent overboost. It's been safe for 3 years for me.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CareBear
I have the HKS 3" downpipe, but I'm unable to screw the upper back bolt on because it goes into the pipe itself. What's up with that? I have to custom-make a bolt that I can screw on...not good (JDM)
Mine went on, rough, but it went on. Now when I took my pipe off after a three years, the pipe had heated up and deformed and covered that bolt. I had to sawzaw the pipe off, it wasn't pretty.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Well I wish I saw this forum a week ago . I have only been into the turbo scene for about 5 months, so I have a lot to learn. On sat. I just installed a down pipe, mid-pipe and an apexi N1 exhaust. As you more experienced Rx-7ners will expect, its not driving as good as expected (its back firing when switching grears at higher RPMs). Now that I have read this forum I have learned that I may have done this prematurely.

First of all, with having a mortgage in San Diego, I can’t afford to go out and get a new ecu and tune it for a few months, so should I take off the mid-pipe? And if so, what should I replace it with? A normal cat? Will this prevent me from spiking and saving my motor?

Second thing, so I have always used HKS exhausts on my Hondas. This is the first Apexi exhaust I have every used and I have found that I chose one of the loudest exhaust that Apexi makes, the N1. I have already purchased the silencer for it, but what do you guys think about resonators?

Thanks for any feed back.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Using tuning to cover for boost spikes is stupid.

Use a proper boost controller.

Dave
and port your waste gate.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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What if I run the down pipe with the mid pipe with the restriction plates in there, Will that be enough to prevent boost creep?
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Maxx65...put tha stock cat back on n u'll be fine until u can get a ecu n tune it.

2fast...sure restriction plates (when installed right) will help. But I would just put tha cat back on
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXX65
so should I take off the mid-pipe? And if so, what should I replace it with? A normal cat? Will this prevent me from spiking and saving my motor?
^^ +1 Yes. Put ur stock cat back on until u get a new ECU and proper tune. it will save your motor

Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Using tuning to cover for boost spikes is stupid.
Use a proper boost controller.
Dave
tuning" .. u meant "buying a ecu w/out getting properly tuned" ... right?

good tuning > boost controller only
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RX7LINK
tuning" .. u meant "buying a ecu w/out getting properly tuned" ... right?

good tuning > boost controller only

No, I mean that if your boost is not solidly controlled, then using a more extensive fuel map is a backwards approach and subject to future problems. No matter what your tuning, you still need your boost to be controlled to match it. Including getting the boost to match the levels of the stock ECU.

If you're getting boost spikes, then put a proper boost controller on and you'll eliminate the spikes. It's cheaper, easier, safer, more extendable, not stupid.

Dave
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