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2fast4u_rx7 07-07-07 11:58 PM

Got the Downpipe on WOW!
 
I got my Downpipe on yesterday and wow what a difference. I can finally hear my turbos spooling. Its been two days and my Stereo hasnt been on. Not only the sound is nice but the the boost picks up quicker. I swear I gain 10-15hp. The guy at the muffler shop was bitchin about the install because it took them from 1pm-5pm to finish. Costed $150 cad in labour alone but I think it was well worth it since I dont have the proper tools and I would break something. Now I also have a midpipe and I was told from my previous post not to put it on becuase it will caus boost creep. I was wondering if I kept on the oem cat will that have enough restriction for the midpipe? or what if I got a retriction plate? No other mods on the car besides the engine is a JDM in a USDM RX7 and I have Apexi intake and a after market muffler unsure of the brand.

Black1993rx7 07-08-07 12:04 AM

i have a custom intake and a downpipe with no spiking. It did up the boost to 10.5 psi or so but no problems yet. :fingersx:

GoodfellaFD3S 07-08-07 12:08 AM

Leave the main cat on the car.

2fast4u_rx7 07-08-07 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 7114189)
Leave the main cat on the car.

So I can put on the mid pipe on as long as I keep the main cat on, Is that what you are saying? Thanks for the reply

MADDSLOW 07-08-07 12:24 AM

You can't put both a midpipe and a main cat on, its one or the other.

2fast4u_rx7 07-08-07 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by Black1993rx7 (Post 7114179)
i have a custom intake and a downpipe with no spiking. It did up the boost to 10.5 psi or so but no problems yet. :fingersx:

Do you have a midpipe as well or just the Downpipe?

2fast4u_rx7 07-08-07 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by MADDSLOW (Post 7114212)
You can't put both a midpipe and a main cat on, its one or the other.

Oh I understand now. I thought the midpipe bolted behind the main cat. What if I got a High flow cat will this make any difference or affect anything?

MADDSLOW 07-08-07 12:39 AM

A HFC would be a LOT safer than a m/p, but I'm not too experienced about using them with the stock ECU.

spandy 07-08-07 01:25 AM

If you go to a midpipe, make sure you upgrade your ecu first, not the other way around.

Read the faqs, then read them again, then anything you don't totally understand, search it out, then read the faq again, and again, search some more, read some more, etc.

Enthu 07-08-07 01:37 AM

I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.

pinkrx7 07-08-07 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Enthu (Post 7114315)
I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.

forget just a radiator. get in on ramys v mount

jkstill 07-08-07 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast4u_rx7 (Post 7114165)
I The guy at the muffler shop was bitchin about the install because it took them from 1pm-5pm to finish. Costed $150 cad in labour alone but I think it was well worth it since I dont have the proper tools and I would break something. .

Find another shop.

I did it myself in 2 hours. The tools required are minimal.
This was the second mod I did to the FD, the first being the vacuum hoses.

It all seems so long ago...

CareBear 07-08-07 09:58 AM

I have the HKS 3" downpipe, but I'm unable to screw the upper back bolt on because it goes into the pipe itself. What's up with that? I have to custom-make a bolt that I can screw on...not good :( (JDM)

dgeesaman 07-08-07 10:06 AM

If you leave the main cat in your boost is much less likely spike or rise.

So don't do a high flow until you have an aftermarket boost controller, IMO.

Dave

jkinluv 07-08-07 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Enthu (Post 7114315)
I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.

Same here.

dgeesaman 07-08-07 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Enthu (Post 7114315)
I'd get an ECU before any other mods. I spiked too high on just a DP and intake. Next mods should be upgraded radiator and an ECU.

Using tuning to cover for boost spikes is stupid.

Use a proper boost controller.

Dave

donz 07-09-07 12:43 AM

^if not I live close to you and will buy your roller when you blow it up!

Joe Geiman 07-09-07 07:16 AM

a stock catback with a down and midpipe will give enough restriction to prevent overboost. It's been safe for 3 years for me.

JamesVaughn3rd 07-09-07 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by CareBear (Post 7114660)
I have the HKS 3" downpipe, but I'm unable to screw the upper back bolt on because it goes into the pipe itself. What's up with that? I have to custom-make a bolt that I can screw on...not good :( (JDM)

Mine went on, rough, but it went on. Now when I took my pipe off after a three years, the pipe had heated up and deformed and covered that bolt. I had to sawzaw the pipe off, it wasn't pretty.

MAXX65 07-09-07 03:51 PM

Well I wish I saw this forum a week ago:wallbash: . I have only been into the turbo scene for about 5 months, so I have a lot to learn. On sat. I just installed a down pipe, mid-pipe and an apexi N1 exhaust. As you more experienced Rx-7ners will expect, its not driving as good as expected (its back firing when switching grears at higher RPMs). Now that I have read this forum I have learned that I may have done this prematurely.

First of all, with having a mortgage in San Diego, I can’t afford to go out and get a new ecu and tune it for a few months, so should I take off the mid-pipe? And if so, what should I replace it with? A normal cat? Will this prevent me from spiking and saving my motor?:Wconfused

Second thing, so I have always used HKS exhausts on my Hondas. This is the first Apexi exhaust I have every used and I have found that I chose one of the loudest exhaust that Apexi makes, the N1. I have already purchased the silencer for it, but what do you guys think about resonators?

Thanks for any feed back.

OneRotor 07-09-07 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by dgeesaman (Post 7115398)
Using tuning to cover for boost spikes is stupid.

Use a proper boost controller.

Dave

and port your waste gate.

2fast4u_rx7 07-17-07 07:22 PM

What if I run the down pipe with the mid pipe with the restriction plates in there, Will that be enough to prevent boost creep?

BuffDaddy915 07-17-07 08:00 PM

Maxx65...put tha stock cat back on n u'll be fine until u can get a ecu n tune it.

2fast...sure restriction plates (when installed right) will help. But I would just put tha cat back on

RX7LINK 07-17-07 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by MAXX65 (Post 7118920)
so should I take off the mid-pipe? And if so, what should I replace it with? A normal cat? Will this prevent me from spiking and saving my motor?:Wconfused

^^ +1 Yes. Put ur stock cat back on until u get a new ECU and proper tune. it will save your motor


Originally Posted by dgeesaman (Post 7115398)
Using tuning to cover for boost spikes is stupid.
Use a proper boost controller.
Dave

tuning" .. u meant "buying a ecu w/out getting properly tuned" ... right?

good tuning > boost controller only

dgeesaman 07-17-07 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by RX7LINK (Post 7147389)
tuning" .. u meant "buying a ecu w/out getting properly tuned" ... right?

good tuning > boost controller only


No, I mean that if your boost is not solidly controlled, then using a more extensive fuel map is a backwards approach and subject to future problems. No matter what your tuning, you still need your boost to be controlled to match it. Including getting the boost to match the levels of the stock ECU.

If you're getting boost spikes, then put a proper boost controller on and you'll eliminate the spikes. It's cheaper, easier, safer, more extendable, not stupid.

Dave


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