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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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Gjorde nåt väldigt dumt igår

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That's swedish

Anyways i need alittle help with something im unsure of.

I was gonna drive to work yeterday but changed my mind since it started raining, so i drove the car back into the garage and shut it off. Today it wouldnt start and i was sure that it was flooded and i was right, i took the sparkplugs out and cleaned them, unflooded the engine and put the plugs back in. The car didnt wanna start now either, no ignition at all. it turned but no ignition.

My question is: Should i have put ATF oil into the engine aswell? I thought it wouldnt be necessary cause i should have compression right?

I've searched but there's so many quesions about this and it's hard to find anything useful, plus im surfing with a modem so it takes so f-ucking long time to search.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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I wish I could help u bro,sorry.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by RotaryRocket101
I wish I could help u bro,sorry.
Nice post

Try this: hold down the gas pedal to the floor and crank the engine over. This shuts off the fuel injectors and allows the maximum amount of air into the engine. It's sort of a built-in unflooding procedure.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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don't worry about me , if there's no need for the ATF when flooding then i just need new plugs. But i dont wanna buy new plugs if it isnt necessary. I can't buy plugs until tuesday either and then they won't come home until friday, so if ATF would work id really like to know.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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already tried with the gas pedal to the floor, didnt help at all. So is there no need for ATF?
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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they ATF will work even though the deflooding method didn't

If you are sequential instead of taking everything off see if you can just take the 4 bolts off of the end of the uim and then pry it up enough to pour some atf in there with a funnel or anything that will work. Try a couple ounces that should do it. I've never had a problem with the car flooding after turning it on and off. I always move my car from outside into the garage when its fully cold.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Snook
they ATF will work even though the deflooding method didn't
yes but is it necessary to get it going after an unflooding?
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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did reach huge dumb yesterday??

Ich tat etwas, das gestern wirklich dumm ist ??


im frohes im nicht in Ihren Schuhen

heh


Ich habe ein Geschenk für Sie, die ich bald senden muß.

good luck
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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it's swedish for: I did something stupid yesterday. and that was ofcourse shutting the engine off when it had only idled for 2 minutes.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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atf helps because the extra gas washes away the oil and carbon inside the rotor housing. The oil and carbon helps the apex seal, seal better. the atf fluid helps improve the seal allowing more compression, allowing the car to start easier.

This is most often useful in cars with older motors where compression is not as great as it could be to begin with. The atf fluid also helps to start motors that have sat for a long time and get carbon lock.

i believe the other antiflooding methods are better for you. But if they dont work then it cant hurt to try some atf.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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You can pull the fuse for the fuel pump and crank it for a while to clean out some gas. Then replace fuse and try again.

If the plugs are really wet you will have to dry them off. Pull them out....or you could try to let it sit overnight and maybe dry off themselves.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by keynote22
You can pull the fuse for the fuel pump and crank it for a while to clean out some gas. Then replace fuse and try again.
This would have the same effect as holding the gas to the floor while cranking.

Tobias: If you replace the plugs it will probably start without the ATF. The ATF trick is usually used as a last resort.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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already tried everything except ATF, so im gonna try atf tomorrow, if that doesnt work then it's changing sparkplugs time.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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atf...lmfao...use atf as a last resort. Get new plugs.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 04:31 AM
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You can drain some oil or ATF into the nipples on the UIM where people commonly hook up a boost gauge. That will get some oil into the chamber to assist in sealing without having to take anything apart. If you can get one rotor firing, the other one should start to fire as soon as the engine is idling.

-Max
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by maxcooper
You can drain some oil or ATF into the nipples on the UIM where people commonly hook up a boost gauge. That will get some oil into the chamber to assist in sealing without having to take anything apart. If you can get one rotor firing, the other one should start to fire as soon as the engine is idling.

-Max
Good advice, Max-you beat me to it. Works like a charm.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Why not try the old push start? Worked for me. Just get it going, either down a hill, or in my case, being pushed by a ford Aerostar with a couch cushion in between, step on the clutch, put it in first, and let off the clutch. Sure fire way, and no dissassembly, no ATF. Just make sure the key is in the ignition, and in the "on" position. Good luck man.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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When you unflood the engine, remove the plugs while cranking it over with fuel pump relay removed and throttle pedal to the floor. In a stubborn case, do this procedure a few times throughout the day and leave it overnight with the plugs out so all the gas can evaporate.

If you get to the last resort with ATF, try motor oil first.

Once you get it running, check your oil to make sure its not contaminated with too much gas.

Good Luck
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