For the flamers, SR20DET'd FD 1/4 results
04-04-03, 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by 240Z TwinTurbo
Vosko P. Cole Train, when I said "for the flamers," I didn't mean it to be for **** like you! Fuel systems don't support PSI they support HP. I saw your brother's car in Sport Compact Mag a few months back. It was the 300ZX TT that made 500++hp@wheels and ran 12.1@120mph. You and he must have used the same dyno.
Vosko P. Cole Train, when I said "for the flamers," I didn't mean it to be for **** like you! Fuel systems don't support PSI they support HP. I saw your brother's car in Sport Compact Mag a few months back. It was the 300ZX TT that made 500++hp@wheels and ran 12.1@120mph. You and he must have used the same dyno.
04-04-03, 12:10 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: SR20DET'd FD 1/4 results
Originally posted by es
Not true! Didn't ErnieT run an entire seasons on a factory motor? Hell, tell me what the big differences are between the factory motor & a 500HP built motor since you obviously think the factory motor is weak. Moly E-shafts? Ceramic apex seals? Billet side seals?
How is it Carlos Gonzalas can hold his 13B together doing 169MPH 1/4s with factory apex seals when they are such a weak motor?
Not true! Didn't ErnieT run an entire seasons on a factory motor? Hell, tell me what the big differences are between the factory motor & a 500HP built motor since you obviously think the factory motor is weak. Moly E-shafts? Ceramic apex seals? Billet side seals?
How is it Carlos Gonzalas can hold his 13B together doing 169MPH 1/4s with factory apex seals when they are such a weak motor?
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04-04-03, 01:13 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: SR20DET'd FD 1/4 results
How is it Carlos Gonzalas can hold his 13B together doing 169MPH 1/4s with factory apex seals when they are such a weak motor? [/B]
04-04-03, 02:15 PM
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Not having the proper tention on the front belts will make those bearings go bad as well. I'm sure you know that but its just VERY odd that they would keep going bad like that. Did you ever have an idea on what caused it?
I think after the 2nd one I would have just bought a Mazda reman for $2500.
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I think after the 2nd one I would have just bought a Mazda reman for $2500.
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04-04-03, 02:58 PM
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wow, this is getting out of hand. i think the swap was well put together but if you cant hang with the rotors then get out the housing. just seems like more and more people are ditching something that is revolutionary to enignes. i dont see anything wrong with maybe tossing a renesis motor in, but a damn sr20. i was about to do an sr20 in a 240 but im sticking with nissan. i guess for cars i hate mixing stuff up by manufacturers the same way you probably feel about mixing your tommy hillfiger shirt with GUESS jeans.
VOSKO-we know your car is the ****. stop breaking stuff. i want to see some times out of you. you are one of the big boys on the forum and you are one of the peopel that i read every post on. you pretty much have the same setup as ari. good luck when things aernt broken.
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your car has bad *** numbers for the twins, NUF SAID
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VOSKO-we know your car is the ****. stop breaking stuff. i want to see some times out of you. you are one of the big boys on the forum and you are one of the peopel that i read every post on. you pretty much have the same setup as ari. good luck when things aernt broken.
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your car has bad *** numbers for the twins, NUF SAID
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04-04-03, 03:12 PM
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Just because Vosko has a high post count does not mean he should be running 10 sec passes. Maybe he knows his ****, but just doesn't have the funds to buy what he needs whenever he needs it. Yeah so Carlos blew a motor on a run, look at the top fuel dragsters they break motors all the time, so what's the big deal. I could say that piston motors suck because they break down on the track but that wouldn't be very accurate now then would it. Look at all the people on the forum that have reliable engines. Nice job on the conversion and congratulations on some good numbers.
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04-04-03, 03:50 PM
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I don't understand why you guys are saying his swap sucks just because there are rotaries that are faster. That is retarded... I'm sure he didn't do this swap just because he thought he would be faster than every rotary out there. There will *always* be someone faster than you (unless you are that one lucky person).
He's a Nissan guy, knows the engines well, and wants to show off his fabrication skills (sorry if I'm wrong). And he's done a damn good job, apparently, and has a very fast car.
Nice job on the swap! Looks like a really clean install.
That sucks that you kept messing up your front bearing on the 13B... you must have been doing *something* wrong each time... I've never heard of anyone else having that sort of problem repeatedly. It's aways apex and water seals.
He's a Nissan guy, knows the engines well, and wants to show off his fabrication skills (sorry if I'm wrong). And he's done a damn good job, apparently, and has a very fast car.
Nice job on the swap! Looks like a really clean install.
That sucks that you kept messing up your front bearing on the 13B... you must have been doing *something* wrong each time... I've never heard of anyone else having that sort of problem repeatedly. It's aways apex and water seals.
Originally posted by suprfast
wow, this is getting out of hand. i think the swap was well put together but if you cant hang with the rotors then get out the housing. just seems like more and more people are ditching something that is revolutionary to enignes. i dont see anything wrong with maybe tossing a renesis motor in, but a damn sr20. i was about to do an sr20 in a 240 but im sticking with nissan. i guess for cars i hate mixing stuff up by manufacturers the same way you probably feel about mixing your tommy hillfiger shirt with GUESS jeans.
VOSKO-we know your car is the ****. stop breaking stuff. i want to see some times out of you. you are one of the big boys on the forum and you are one of the peopel that i read every post on. you pretty much have the same setup as ari. good luck when things aernt broken.
SPO-
your car has bad *** numbers for the twins, NUF SAID
kris
wow, this is getting out of hand. i think the swap was well put together but if you cant hang with the rotors then get out the housing. just seems like more and more people are ditching something that is revolutionary to enignes. i dont see anything wrong with maybe tossing a renesis motor in, but a damn sr20. i was about to do an sr20 in a 240 but im sticking with nissan. i guess for cars i hate mixing stuff up by manufacturers the same way you probably feel about mixing your tommy hillfiger shirt with GUESS jeans.
VOSKO-we know your car is the ****. stop breaking stuff. i want to see some times out of you. you are one of the big boys on the forum and you are one of the peopel that i read every post on. you pretty much have the same setup as ari. good luck when things aernt broken.
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your car has bad *** numbers for the twins, NUF SAID
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04-04-03, 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by paw140
I don't understand why you guys are saying his swap sucks just because there are rotaries that are faster. That is retarded... I'm sure he didn't do this swap just because he thought he would be faster than every rotary out there. There will *always* be someone faster than you (unless you are that one lucky person).
He's a Nissan guy, knows the engines well, and wants to show off his fabrication skills (sorry if I'm wrong). And he's done a damn good job, apparently, and has a very fast car.
Nice job on the swap! Looks like a really clean install.
That sucks that you kept messing up your front bearing on the 13B... you must have been doing *something* wrong each time... I've never heard of anyone else having that sort of problem repeatedly. It's aways apex and water seals.
I don't understand why you guys are saying his swap sucks just because there are rotaries that are faster. That is retarded... I'm sure he didn't do this swap just because he thought he would be faster than every rotary out there. There will *always* be someone faster than you (unless you are that one lucky person).
He's a Nissan guy, knows the engines well, and wants to show off his fabrication skills (sorry if I'm wrong). And he's done a damn good job, apparently, and has a very fast car.
Nice job on the swap! Looks like a really clean install.
That sucks that you kept messing up your front bearing on the 13B... you must have been doing *something* wrong each time... I've never heard of anyone else having that sort of problem repeatedly. It's aways apex and water seals.
04-04-03, 04:22 PM
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Well see that brings up another good point. Your always busy working on somebody else's car, or engine. You're doing a favor to the Rotary communitty by donating your time to other people's project and losing time on your own. Oh yeah I can see and felt a little bit of the slap.
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04-04-03, 04:32 PM
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alright girls, enough already.
the swap looks good. weather he did it as "a slap in the face" or not is not the point. the times he ran is not the point. he is not downing the rotary in this thread, he just did not succede with one. as stated before this is a public forum and he can post whatever pics he has of his car and his opinion on things... BUT the 2nd grade name calling has to stop. we have to respect eachother as people, not get pissy like little school girls
yes i personaly think vosko's car absolutly *should* be running faster than 12.0's. think of it what you will. i am sure one day when he can hold the damn thing together and have some one tune the car for him, he *will* run a better time... but the future is not here RIGHT NOW.
no offence jon, but why there ARE so many people swinging so hard from your nuts when there are plenty of other members on the board running much faster times...even people with A LOT less done to the cars?
i think the title of this thread is not very appropriate, and is calling people to argue. lets keep it civilized though.
dont make me lock it. 
the swap looks good. weather he did it as "a slap in the face" or not is not the point. the times he ran is not the point. he is not downing the rotary in this thread, he just did not succede with one. as stated before this is a public forum and he can post whatever pics he has of his car and his opinion on things... BUT the 2nd grade name calling has to stop. we have to respect eachother as people, not get pissy like little school girls
yes i personaly think vosko's car absolutly *should* be running faster than 12.0's. think of it what you will. i am sure one day when he can hold the damn thing together and have some one tune the car for him, he *will* run a better time... but the future is not here RIGHT NOW.
no offence jon, but why there ARE so many people swinging so hard from your nuts when there are plenty of other members on the board running much faster times...even people with A LOT less done to the cars?
i think the title of this thread is not very appropriate, and is calling people to argue. lets keep it civilized though.
dont make me lock it.
04-04-03, 04:42 PM
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Why is it a slap in the face? I don't know about you, but I'm a car guy. I respect other people's projects, when tastefully and professionally done, whether or not it's a rotary. My uncle is a huge Chevy muscle car fan, and recently showed me his '77 Camaro with a 425 hp 350 that he built. This car is an extreme opposite from an RX7, but I still think it's an awesome car.
If you go to www.rotaryaviation.com, you'll see that these guys have developed products for using a 13B in aircraft that primarily use piston Lycoming engines. Is this disrespectful to the piston aircraft community? I sure don't think so.
Why are you guys so close-minded when it comes to swapping out a rotary?
If you go to www.rotaryaviation.com, you'll see that these guys have developed products for using a 13B in aircraft that primarily use piston Lycoming engines. Is this disrespectful to the piston aircraft community? I sure don't think so.
Why are you guys so close-minded when it comes to swapping out a rotary?
Originally posted by vosko
the whole point of him doing this, is a slap in the face to the rotary. some people can't see that
the whole point of him doing this, is a slap in the face to the rotary. some people can't see that
04-04-03, 04:47 PM
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Those numbers are very impressive. Don't let the haters get to you. But I'm sure you already knew that .
You should run in the IDRC street class. Your car will get so much attention you won't know what to do with it.
BTW which track did you run at? I wonder what those numbers would be at sea level.
Props to you for all the work you put into that thing.
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.You should run in the IDRC street class. Your car will get so much attention you won't know what to do with it
.BTW which track did you run at? I wonder what those numbers would be at sea level.
Props to you for all the work you put into that thing.
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04-04-03, 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by vosko
the whole point of him doing this, is a slap in the face to the rotary. some people can't see that
the whole point of him doing this, is a slap in the face to the rotary. some people can't see that
Not to start a flame war(or add to the one burning) because that's not what I'm trying to do, but in your theory is not jimlab's car a slap in the face to the rotary as well?
As said above there was nothing downing the rotary motor said by tnt in this thread, just that he hasn't had the best of luck with them.
I guess the point I'm getting to is you're not giving jimlab a hard timeabout "a slap in the face to the rotary" (instead you're calmly discussing rear end options) but yet you have bones to pick with this guy... Who says this guy won't engineer something that might help you out someday.
Vosko, again you're car is great and you're a really nice guy but I don't see the theory that this car is a slap in the face to the rotary but you don't preach to jimlab this way.
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04-04-03, 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
i think the title of this thread is not very appropriate, and is calling people to argue. lets keep it civilized though. dont make me lock it. [/B]
i think the title of this thread is not very appropriate, and is calling people to argue. lets keep it civilized though.
dont make me lock it. [/B]
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04-04-03, 04:52 PM
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i have no idea why everyone loves me? maybe its because i am a lovable guy
jim's car is doing something that the 13B cannot do MASSIVE torque and lots of power N/A. i don't like it but i can't argue with 700HP that the engine he had built is going to make. tnt basically put in a SR that is capable of the same power and tq as a 13B. its his car he can do whatever he wants with it. i don't have to say i like it though
jim's car is doing something that the 13B cannot do MASSIVE torque and lots of power N/A. i don't like it but i can't argue with 700HP that the engine he had built is going to make. tnt basically put in a SR that is capable of the same power and tq as a 13B. its his car he can do whatever he wants with it. i don't have to say i like it though
04-04-03, 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
Just because Vosko has a high post count does not mean he should be running 10 sec passes. Maybe he knows his ****, but just doesn't have the funds to buy what he needs whenever he needs it.
Just because Vosko has a high post count does not mean he should be running 10 sec passes. Maybe he knows his ****, but just doesn't have the funds to buy what he needs whenever he needs it.
04-04-03, 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by 240Z TwinTurbo
The title of this thread is very appropriate
The title of this thread is very appropriate
04-04-03, 05:00 PM
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well i am not the one calling names so you can point fingers elsewhere
if you post a thread like this you obviously want to know my opinion hence the public forum
if you post a thread like this you obviously want to know my opinion hence the public forum
04-04-03, 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by black99
you don't preach to jimlab this way.
you don't preach to jimlab this way.
and doesnt stop! his ripping goes on for a LONG TIME too!!! i am not point fingers at anyone. people know who it is directed twords. if they are calling names they know. it is just a warning to everyone.