Fire Extinguishers?
#1
Fire Extinguishers?
I don't know why this crossed my mind, I guess because the possibility of watching your car burn to the ground in front of you can be really scarring. I was just curious as to if anyone has had any personal experience with Halon extinguishers. I know they are B and C rated, perfect for cars, and they don't use the corrosive dry chem nonsense. Though apparently it has been out of production for awhile, but still can be found.
Just curious as to if anyone keeps a Halon extinguisher in their FD, if so what size, and how did they mount it? Any potential vendors you would recommend?
Just curious as to if anyone keeps a Halon extinguisher in their FD, if so what size, and how did they mount it? Any potential vendors you would recommend?
#2
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2.5 lb Halon from Amazon in a Sakebomb front passenger floor mount w/quick release.
https://www.sakebombgarage.com/fire-...ats-fd3s-rx-7/
https://www.sakebombgarage.com/fire-...ats-fd3s-rx-7/
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2.5 lb Halon from Amazon in a Sakebomb front passenger floor mount w/quick release.
https://www.sakebombgarage.com/fire-...ats-fd3s-rx-7/
https://www.sakebombgarage.com/fire-...ats-fd3s-rx-7/
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https://elementfire.com/ Is another option, I've heard of people using it successfully on an FC
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street car or race car or whatever, once you have had a fire, you'll realize there's not really much help having a tiny one out of reach. Mount it within hands reach with seatbelt on. I see so many rx7 guy put them in the rear storage bin, glove box, or the trunk. If you don't have one in the chamber, you're done before you can load the gun. By the time you stop the car, unstrap your belt, open door, get out, and run around in panic, stuff could already be burning pretty hardcore. Here its being used as the arm rest on top of trans tunnel, this one contains halon. The one on the floor its the AFFF foam. The ideal extinguisher is the foam, as it will form a layer over the fuel and starve it of oxygen (and fuel today has 10% ethanol which makes it incredibly difficult to put out). Ethanol fire on dyno immediately shot down with AFFF-AR worked instantaneously.
#14
street car or race car or whatever, once you have had a fire, you'll realize there's not really much help having a tiny one out of reach. Mount it within hands reach with seatbelt on. I see so many rx7 guy put them in the rear storage bin, glove box, or the trunk. If you don't have one in the chamber, you're done before you can load the gun. By the time you stop the car, unstrap your belt, open door, get out, and run around in panic, stuff could already be burning pretty hardcore. Here its being used as the arm rest on top of trans tunnel, this one contains halon. The one on the floor its the AFFF foam. The ideal extinguisher is the foam, as it will form a layer over the fuel and starve it of oxygen (and fuel today has 10% ethanol which makes it incredibly difficult to put out). Ethanol fire on dyno immediately shot down with AFFF-AR worked instantaneously.
Now, (and this is entirely opinion and using logic to connect dots, I could be entirely wrong here, if I am, someone please chime in) wouldn't halon be more effective at not leaving a potentially damaging residue behind? Also, another quick thought, let's assume a scenario where a car has an engine fire start while the hood is closed. Safety states, do not open the hood, right? Due to the sudden presence of oxygen it could cause the flame to flare up. However, Halon being a gas, it would be easier theoretically to perhaps go in through the front air dam while keeping the hood closed, and introduce the halon gas from the extinguisher into the engine bay that way, thus eliminating the fire. Would AFFF be equally effective in that situation?
I'm speculating entirely here. You obviously have a very expensive FD, so I'd be willing to bet you didn't just allocate all of your budget to parts alone and spare none for safety or fire suppression, I guess you could say I was pondering out loud. I'd be interested to hear your take on it.
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I don’t know...some maybe over-thinking this. If I’d known about those Element extinguishers I might have considered them over a 2.5 lb. Halatron. But regardless, if I don’t get a fire completely out within the first moments I’d just as soon let it burn if no other structures or property are threatened. That’s what agreed-value insurance is for.
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Thanks for the info guys, this is something that I have been considering for quite some time. I was actually planning on installing a remote system, with a nozzle in the engine bay, and one right above the fuel tank, but its always been a thing to do...
The https://elementfire.com/ seems like a good alternative while I decide on the remote system!
The https://elementfire.com/ seems like a good alternative while I decide on the remote system!
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Thats for a little *** controlled fire and you have to be about a foot away from the fire source. Lol.
Might as well carry nothing. I like my fd and I would save as much as I can safely. The 2.5 lb will help. I hpoe you never need it, though.
Might as well carry nothing. I like my fd and I would save as much as I can safely. The 2.5 lb will help. I hpoe you never need it, though.
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Having an rx7 catching on fire is the last thing any enthusiast would want! So a few months back I had an opportunity to talk with some fire specialist at my work.
I asked them what would they recommended for a fire extinguisher to carry in my Rx7? After about 30 mins of explaining the pro/con/price/corrosive..etc the concern was “will you have enough time/would it be safe enough to open the hood to put out the fire? Randomly a specialist from the DOD over heard the conversation, and he said “why don’t you buy a system that you can run a line into your engine bay, in the unfortunate event you can pull the pin and go”
he gave me the name of the system, which I lost...but I never got a chance to research it. so this is just a thought,
I asked them what would they recommended for a fire extinguisher to carry in my Rx7? After about 30 mins of explaining the pro/con/price/corrosive..etc the concern was “will you have enough time/would it be safe enough to open the hood to put out the fire? Randomly a specialist from the DOD over heard the conversation, and he said “why don’t you buy a system that you can run a line into your engine bay, in the unfortunate event you can pull the pin and go”
he gave me the name of the system, which I lost...but I never got a chance to research it. so this is just a thought,
#20
I feel with a Halon, it has enough pressure (being that it is, well, a pressurized gas) that it could force its way through the fins in the rad and displace the oxygen in the bay and extinguish a fire much more efficiently. Who knows, you could possibly just be able to open the hood and hose it down. I honestly don't see that element one doing much, though. I can't honestly say with confidence I'd trust it over a halon extinguisher. I'd use that element one as like, maybe if I were to go camping, or for a small kitchen/oven fire.
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Having an rx7 catching on fire is the last thing any enthusiast would want! So a few months back I had an opportunity to talk with some fire specialist at my work.
I asked them what would they recommended for a fire extinguisher to carry in my Rx7? After about 30 mins of explaining the pro/con/price/corrosive..etc the concern was “will you have enough time/would it be safe enough to open the hood to put out the fire? Randomly a specialist from the DOD over heard the conversation, and he said “why don’t you buy a system that you can run a line into your engine bay, in the unfortunate event you can pull the pin and go”
he gave me the name of the system, which I lost...but I never got a chance to research it. so this is just a thought,
I asked them what would they recommended for a fire extinguisher to carry in my Rx7? After about 30 mins of explaining the pro/con/price/corrosive..etc the concern was “will you have enough time/would it be safe enough to open the hood to put out the fire? Randomly a specialist from the DOD over heard the conversation, and he said “why don’t you buy a system that you can run a line into your engine bay, in the unfortunate event you can pull the pin and go”
he gave me the name of the system, which I lost...but I never got a chance to research it. so this is just a thought,
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...asp?RecID=7034
https://www.ogracing.com/spa-afff-fi...ter-mechanical
Just pull the level, problem is that the nozzle will be in one or two specific places, if the fire is somewhere else...
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