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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Finally installed 99-spec lip!! How I did it without drilling!

How I did it:

1. Removed all plastic tabs and locating pins on the SIDES of the 99 lip, after the brake ducts, using a sharp blade. The front ones fit the 93-95 bumper just fine.

2. Removed stock lip

3. Attached 2 side bolts for each half lip first and worked my way to the front, this made my life easier

4. Tightened everything up, note that I DID NOT drill any extra holes

5. I zip-tied the right and left side undertrays in the front as there's no place to bolt them in the 99 lip. The sides were bolted using stock locations

Fit is not perfect, I'm debating whether to drill one extra hole on each side to make it fit better. I like how it looks though
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Nice to see exactly what my car will look like when I get the 99 lip
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:57 AM
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I'm trying to think of another sports car with a cheesy piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper that basically does absolutely nothing unless you are going 120 (and questionable what value it has even then)

I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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99 front lips rock, I dont know what your talking about. Put one on your car and you will understand.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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I'm trying to think of another sports car with a cheesy piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper that basically does absolutely nothing unless you are going 120 (and questionable what value it has even then)

I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....
For some, it improves aesthetics. Personally, I don't care for the '99 lip; I prefer the R1/R2 lip on the '93-'95 cars. IMO, it *belongs* on the car, compared to the stock Touring/Base lip.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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it looks dumb to me.....and I see it as offering no real performance advantage whatsover....as I said, perhaps minor increase in downforce at 120+

gimmicky....
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FD from R1
I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers

So MAZDA is a ricer company for making and installing these OEM parts on their cars in japan?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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Yep, its not required to drill any holes at all... its just reccomended for a better fit. Even if you drill holes, it will still fit shitty, its just because the profile of the 99-spec and the stock 93-98 bumpers is slightly different.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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I guess Im a ricer, according to FD from R1...

Well my car is all show and no go right now!!!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:34 AM
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it looks dumb to me.....and I see it as offering no real performance advantage whatsover....as I said, perhaps minor increase in downforce at 120+
Tell that to Mazda's engineers who designed the car for a 160 MPH top speed. As if you know any better?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FD from R1
I'm trying to think of another sports car with a cheesy piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper that basically does absolutely nothing unless you are going 120 (and questionable what value it has even then)

I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers
I guess OEM is rice now? Moron...
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedKing
IMO, it *belongs* on the car, compared to the stock Touring/Base lip.
Yes, FD's look like sharks without the lip. I guess "FD from R1" likes driving a shark.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Rice, is in the Eye of the Beholder
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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I dont know what these people are talking about, the 99 spec lip is beautiful. I dont see how anyone can think it looks ricey.


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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FD from R1
it looks dumb to me.....and I see it as offering no real performance advantage whatsover....as I said, perhaps minor increase in downforce at 120+

gimmicky....
Actually, I noticed more stability even at highway speeds. It's definitely functional.

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Actually, I noticed more stability even at highway speeds. It's definitely functional.
Interesting. Is that for the 99 or the stock lip? or are both functional?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Section8
Interesting. Is that for the 99 or the stock lip? or are both functional?
I don't know about the stock R1 lip, but I'm referring to the '99 Spec Lip.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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In that case I better take the black tint off my car because I'm a ricer now.

Originally Posted by FD from R1
I'm trying to think of another sports car with a cheesy piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper that basically does absolutely nothing unless you are going 120 (and questionable what value it has even then)

I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers

I think its a better improvement over the shitty 1" lip that most come with. But I have to agree I think the R1 and R2, lip looks more agressive because they are a beefier lip. On top of that both were not only designed for more agressive appearance, but to direct more cold air into the radiator and intercooler even below 120mph, on top of the added benefit of downforce.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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it's their car let them do whatever they want to it, keep t stock, riced it out, it's their money.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by negative
I guess OEM is rice now? Moron...
hahahah I love this forum
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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I installed a 93 r1 lip on my base model yesterday and could have sworn I felt more stability on the highway, it just felt like the front was heavier and stuck to the ground more than it did driving it earlier that day with the 1" stock lip. My real goal was to increase stability over 120mph though since I'm taking it to the track on Friday. I've heard that sevens are weird over 120 due to front-end lift, so whatever downforce I can get up front is welcome.

Plus it looks much better than the stock base lip and not ricey at all. I'm not convinced on the 99+ lip though especially if it doesn't fit perfectly.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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With a just a bit of attention to the alignment, the only part that doesnt mate almost perfectly is the ends, which are about 1 cm longer (towards the tires).

I love the looks of mine:


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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FD from R1
I'm trying to think of another sports car with a cheesy piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper that basically does absolutely nothing unless you are going 120 (and questionable what value it has even then)

I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers
Do not improve performance? Well, FYI, the stock R1 vs the stock Touring lip cut the front lift IN HALF according to wind tunnel testing.

Yeah it doesn't matter at 50 mph, but when I'm going 150, I sure love the planted feel!
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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......... I've heard that sevens are weird over 120 due to front-end lift, so whatever downforce I can get up front is welcome.
I have the stock lip, and have have had my car over 130 mph on several occasions. It has always felt very solid.

My preference would be to have the R1 lip. To me, it looks better with the 93-95 bumper. My only concerns are scraping it on curbs, and getting the car on my ramps when I work on it. I suspect that the downforce is similar with both.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FD from R1
I'm trying to think of another sports car with a cheesy piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper that basically does absolutely nothing unless you are going 120 (and questionable what value it has even then)

I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers
I'm curious.. honestly what do you have on your car?? Maybe we all need to learn a lesson or two on "not" ricin' out our cars.. And OEM mazda piece is being "ricer".. Geez, what next, 99 rear spoiler is also ricing out??

First of all, most of us when we see a riced out car, we immediately think its slow.. So, why not rice it out and make it go fast?? that would be something.. hmm..
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