Finally installed 99-spec lip!! How I did it without drilling!
11-02-04, 06:34 PM
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I think Jimlab posted actual windtunnel stats on the base/touring lip, r1 lip, and 99 lip somewhere on this board which showed that there is an actual difference between the 3 in downforce and drag.
11-02-04, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FD from R1
I'm trying to think of another sports car with a cheesy piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper that basically does absolutely nothing unless you are going 120 (and questionable what value it has even then)
I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers
I never understood modifications that do not improve performance....it's why I always shake my head at ricers
Now its my turn...Obviously, you dont know anything about light-weight aerodynamic cars. Motor-city-boy thinks it a shame Magnaflow doesn't make an OEM replacement for the FD. Oh yeah, my traction bars (just installed them...on my front lawn) are going to boost my gas mileage. BITCHIN!
11-02-04, 08:56 PM
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Mark's (YZF-R1, FD from R1, the ancient words) posts tends to have that effect on people. 
That said, I think putting a '99 front spoiler on a '93-'95 bumper A) looks like ****, B) looks like ****, C) looks like a cheap "me too" wanna-be attempt at updating the look of the car, and D) looks like ****. The styling does not fit the '93-'95 bumper AT ALL.
If you want the '99 spec spoiler, buy the '99 spec bumper that goes with it. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
That said, I think putting a '99 front spoiler on a '93-'95 bumper A) looks like ****, B) looks like ****, C) looks like a cheap "me too" wanna-be attempt at updating the look of the car, and D) looks like ****. The styling does not fit the '93-'95 bumper AT ALL.
If you want the '99 spec spoiler, buy the '99 spec bumper that goes with it. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
11-02-04, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
What if you think the '99 bumper and lights suck, but you like the functionality of the '99 spec lip? 
11-02-04, 09:06 PM
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I like the R1 lip better over the 99spec too...
I think the 99spec looks kinda flimsey but I do agree it looks good with the 99spec bumper.
Speaking of anyone have an R1 lip for sale ?
I think the 99spec looks kinda flimsey but I do agree it looks good with the 99spec bumper.
Speaking of anyone have an R1 lip for sale ?
11-02-04, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
What does the '99 spoiler do that the '93-'95 R1 front spoiler doesn't? Provide a hair more downforce? Nothing you'd be able to notice or measure, especially at any sane speed. Mark did have a valid point this time.
Besides, getting a '99 Spec unused was much cheaper and easier than the stock lip the last time I priced them out (in case people are counting pennies).Taste is different to everyone. What one person likes, someone else might not. I like the look of a properly attached '99 Spec lip to a '93-95 bumper. I still have yet to find a bumper I like myself over the stock '93-95 but that's another conversation. Some people don't like it, oh well. They just don't need to do it to their cars.
11-02-04, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Besides, getting a '99 Spec unused was much cheaper and easier than the stock lip the last time I priced them out (in case people are counting pennies).
I still have yet to find a bumper I like myself over the stock '93-95 but that's another conversation.
11-02-04, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Well, there's one justification.
I think the Border Type II is my favorite.
I think the Border Type II is my favorite.
I wonder what that would look like with the newer style lights?
I'm not really a fan of fiberglass, but that has always been the only aftermarket front I would even consider..
11-02-04, 10:24 PM
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I think the Border Type II is my favorite.
Originally Posted by jdhuegel1
I wonder what that would look like with the newer style lights?
11-02-04, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jdhuegel1
I wonder what that would look like with the newer style lights?
11-02-04, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Mark did have a valid point this time.
my points are always valid....this is coming from the guy who thought radioisotope dating is "as accurate as a swiss watch"
11-02-04, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by the ancient words
"this time"?
my points are always valid...
this is coming from the guy who thought radioisotope dating is "as accurate as a swiss watch"
Of course, this is coming from a guy who thinks Noah packed up two of every animal to ride out the global flood while all the fish stayed in the sea (which miraculously maintained fresh, brackish, and salt zones for the comfort of the various species), and all the plants were somehow saved by hitching rides on floating bog-rafts...
11-02-04, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by travisorus rex
I love how unstable this forum is. One person (this ********) has a comment and everyone climbs in the ring to take pop-shots. It's great. Now its my turn...
Obviously, you dont know anything about light-weight aerodynamic cars. Motor-city-boy thinks it a shame Magnaflow doesn't make an OEM replacement for the FD. Oh yeah, my traction bars (just installed them...on my front lawn) are going to boost my gas mileage. BITCHIN!
Now its my turn...Obviously, you dont know anything about light-weight aerodynamic cars. Motor-city-boy thinks it a shame Magnaflow doesn't make an OEM replacement for the FD. Oh yeah, my traction bars (just installed them...on my front lawn) are going to boost my gas mileage. BITCHIN!
excuse me ********....my point was unless you are driving something like this http://www.koenigsegg.se/ or this http://www.noblecars.com/new-noble-site/index.html at 120+, a piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper is a complete waste of time
little Mazda wanna-bes on this forum amaze me....if you are tracking your car, have at it
11-02-04, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
I think we both know that the point I was trying to make was that atomic "events" are predictable and very well understood.
stick to V-8s Jim
11-02-04, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by the ancient words
what an *******
11-02-04, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by the ancient words
but radiosotope decay is not well understood and subject to a host of assumptions....that was the point....you were way outside your limited knowledge base and still are
11-02-04, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jdhuegel1
I wonder what that would look like with the newer style lights?
I'm not really a fan of fiberglass, but that has always been the only aftermarket front I would even consider..
I'm not really a fan of fiberglass, but that has always been the only aftermarket front I would even consider..
11-02-04, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Meaning what, that I don't have the Institute for Creation Research providing all of my data?
whoever it is....they're worthless
11-03-04, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by the ancient words
what an *******
excuse me ********....my point was unless you are driving something like this http://www.koenigsegg.se/ or this http://www.noblecars.com/new-noble-site/index.html at 120+, a piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper is a complete waste of time
Little Mazda wanna-bes on this forum amaze me....if you are tracking your car, have at it
excuse me ********....my point was unless you are driving something like this http://www.koenigsegg.se/ or this http://www.noblecars.com/new-noble-site/index.html at 120+, a piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper is a complete waste of time
Little Mazda wanna-bes on this forum amaze me....if you are tracking your car, have at it
Most people buy the 99 spec parts because they like how they look. That is usually what most car owners buy any exterior "enhancing" product. Mazda wanna-be or not, you're the brainiac who declared what a waste this "piece of plastic hanging off the front bumper" is...especially on this forum.