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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 11:15 AM
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Exclamation FD3S Front Subframe bolt hole stripped!

Hey Guys I tried looking through the threads to see if i found something similar but no luck. So after removing my subframe bolts in order to have more clearance to remove my oil pan due to it leaking, i noticed that the hole was stripped since the bolt wouldn't go back in no matter what. What would you guys suggest i do to fix this? Everything else is on thigh and as it should, I don't want to drive the car like that. Plus when i was driving it home i noticed that when ever i would go over a pump or a pot hole the (4W ABS) light would come on. Im pretty sure it's due to the missing bolt. Help idk what to do
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 11:17 AM
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It's the answer you won't like.

Pull the subframe and inspect the threads, see if they can be fixed or re-threaded. I think that's a welded captive nut on the body. That's not going to be fun to fix.

Worst case get with a body shop.

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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 12:04 PM
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You could try using a thread chaser to reform the captive bolt's threads (do not use a tap, it will just cut through the already-damaged threads).
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 01:43 PM
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This happened to me once and I was very worried.

I bought a helicoil kit. But, before I used it I inspected the bolt. 90% of the issue was the bolt itself. I could be remembering incorrectly, but think these are green yield bolts that are intended to be replaced. I chased the threads in the hole with a tap, new bolt torqued down properly with no issues since.

Chase the threads and see if a brand new OEM bolt will torque down to spec before doing anything else.
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 01:50 PM
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Still have it. So here are pics in case that helps.





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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 08:04 PM
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Yes, that's the bolt! And awesome, thank you for the input. I've been super worried about this. But I'll be trying this next! So that's the Tap size you used for it? M12X1.25?
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 08:13 PM
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I think so, but I would measure to be certain. That was like 10 years ago, I'm surprised I even knew where it was in the tool box haha.
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 08:15 PM
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And if your threads really are messed up, doing the helicoil is easy and also strong, used in lots of industries including aviation when threads are needed in aluminum components (aluminum threads don't last in high stress environments unless it's a certain type of aluminum, so helicoil are used
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
I think so, but I would measure to be certain. That was like 10 years ago, I'm surprised I even knew where it was in the tool box haha.
Will do, but how exactly do you measure it? I've never had to do anything like this before.
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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 12:07 AM
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If you have an FD, it doesn't hurt to have a tap and die set. Just by a metric kit, it will come with a gauge you hold up to the bolt to match threads
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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 10:33 AM
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You can also get things to measure bolts with. Harbor Freight has one that's a disc, you put the bolt through a hole to find the diameter (in this case 12mm) and then match up the threads on the side (in this case 1.25).

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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 11:09 AM
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+1 for Helicoil. I don't doubt that it'll hold. I've redone most bolt holes in the aluminum head of my protege with them, and they hold up great. Never had one fail. On my FD, a helicoil insert is holding in one of the exhaust manifold studs
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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 02:27 PM
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I will say a heli coil will work but you're better off with the original threads if they can be repaired in some manner. It is possible to screw up a Heli coil install and be in a huge mess.

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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 02:45 PM
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Agree. In my case cleaning the threads and using a new bolt worked great. Green torque to yield bolts are only supposed to be used once (although many do reuse them with no issue on the suspension).
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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Payino123
Yes, that's the bolt! And awesome, thank you for the input. I've been super worried about this. But I'll be trying this next! So that's the Tap size you used for it? M12X1.25?
Were you able to find out the tap size?
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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 10:31 PM
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take the bolt or nut to Home Depot or Lowes; they usually have a board in the Fastener area for both metric and SAE threaded studs and holes with the thread size called out for figuring out which one it threads on or into.
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Old Aug 6, 2023 | 01:24 PM
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I use a thread pitch gauge to figure out nut and bolt thread pitches.



Most bolts are 1.25 on our cars for the medium sized bolts. The smaller bolts are typically 1.0 pitch and 1.5 for the larger ones.

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Old Aug 7, 2023 | 01:20 AM
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Basic mechanic info- dont be offended if its common sense to you.

Whenever you are installing parts with multiple fasteners holding them together- put each bolt in loosely 1st so things can move around and you arent causing a misalignment issue.

I see beginners put a bolt or two in and start tightening them right away and the last bolt never wants to go in.

Everything else is on thigh and as it should,
Thats the line that triggered me LOL
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