Narfle

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Young people are just more prone to messing it up. So, dont and youre above the bs. Unless you cry about it. I bought my FD when I was 18. woot.

Larz

My two younger siblings fear the FD. One is 19 and the other is 15. I think I taught them well. The 15 year old will be joining me at auto x as soon as she gets her liscence. She'll probably wind up with a miata or a second gen and just drive my FD at events. I think everyone with a highpowered sports car should have to take some sort of performance driving course.

FDNewbie

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Slow down. I think EVERYONE should take a "Welcome to the wonderful world of cars" class prior to being able to drive. They should MASTER parallel parking, driving in reverse, skid control, driving in rain, snow, and ice, emergency procedures like what to do if your brakes fail, how to change a flat tire, what the warning lights mean, what to do when the car makes funny noises, how to check your fluid levels and fill as necessary, etc etc. If you don't know how to operate a vehicle, I personally don't think you should be anywhere *near* them.

THEN, if you decide to purchase a high performance vehicle, you better have some serious advanced training.

FYI, Germany has no *enforced* speed limit on the Autobahn, and has less deaths and accidents than the US. Why? It costs almost $3,000 US to get your license in Germany, due to the extensive requirements of the driver's education "behind the wheel" course. Two of the three driving tests MUST be performed in rain and snow. Now THAT is taking preventative measures.

~Ramy

eastcoastbumps

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I met a local owner over the weekend who has 17k miles on his bone stock FD. Thats the kind of car that will sky rocket in price. Moding the living hell out of your car turns a lot of people off when it comes time to sell, and will usually hurt the price.

Larz

I can agree with that. It is way too easy to get behind the wheel in this country. Even if you get a DUI you can get it back. Even with multiple DUIs. Driving should be a priviledge, not a right (like fat chicks and spandex).

JDriftM

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Makes me appreciate my FC a lot more. How you ask? I just don't give a crap about my car's value, it's valuable to me. That's what matters to me. I just enjoy driving my car.

You all have fun with those values.

J

ehos

Do not hate, APPRECIATE!

Herblenny

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COME on, thats BS! If you knew your FC was increase in value you would also think, "HELL YA!".

We all appreciate owning what we own (except my other non rotaries... jK). Its just an added bonus to know what we own actually increase in value. So, when time for me to cash my 7s in, at least time I put will be compensated instead of disappear into thin air.. That's a bonus!

niburu

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I think in general all the 7's have gone down as far as they are going to go in value. I have seen a few mighty expensive FB's in the last couple of years. The FC's really a tuners dream, initially cheap to get into and a large aftermarket of parts to choose from.
There is the occasional cheap FD find as well........ahem.

veilsidei

yea i remember when mine was at 8k
Condition Value
Excellent $17,870
Good $16,910
Fair $15,585

Larz

I bet the new F&F movie makes our values jump a few grand.

BryanDowns

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Thats a bubble waiting to pop...

matty

until a new 7 comes out.

niburu

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don't hold your breath
we most likely won't see a 7 again, maybe an RX-9

darkphantom

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i think supras have more VALUE than ours just for the fact of these reasons (dont take my reasons as facts, just my opinon)

1. you can seat more than 2 people
2. reliability
3. made in 1998 (rx7 in 1995)


but i do like the fact that the fd is raised in value. make me feel more proud of it (espically when they talk bad about the car)

Fritz Flynn

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KBB and NADA etc....don't mean squat when it comes to a used sports car that's 12 years old.

I think the FDs that are modded or high mileage, repainted, wrecked etc... will go down in price and the ones with low mileage that are mostly stock will increase in price. Over the last few years that's been the trend and that will only continue.

If you want the value of your car to increase then don't drive it and don't mod it lol.

drittens

yeah, I figured that's how I might get into the FD business a little more cheaply- get one of the ones that say "Featured on NOPI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"....but, so I dont get an ugly thing and then have to pay alot for tasteful parts, I'll probably just find a stocker

niburu

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remeber in this thread
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...1&page=1&pp=15
you said you didn't think the guy would get his asking price of $26K for his modded repainted FD?
You were wrong then and you're wrong now.
These cars have gone as low as they're gonna go.
And I would definetly take a car with reliabilty mods done to it over a completely stock car.

Montego

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Or any rotaries for that matter...

I heard through a very reliable source about design flaws regarding distribution of oil and the possible death of the rotary project due because of it. I'm keeping my mouth shut as suppossedly **** is going to hit fan soon, therefore confirm or deny what I've heard.

Hopefully it's all bullshit.

moconnor

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High mileage, poorly maintained FDs continue to drop in value. I have seen quite a few recent 100k+ mile cars selling for $8-$9k - two years ago they would have been in the $10-$11k range. With the increasing price of spare parts and the still fairly decent supply of lower mileage cars, I can see them bottoming out in a few years to $5k or so.

Lower mileage, well maintained ones seem to be increasing in value. This is good. What is not good is that more and more FDs seem to be bought by people who can not afford to maintain them

Picking one weird-*** outlier like the car you refer to does not prove a point. Yes - if you buy a 100k+ mile $8k car and spend $30-$40k on it, perhaps you can sell it for $25 but I would not plan on it.

morningla

in 3 months, canada allows import of 15 years old car from Japan. I think the first 3rd gen FD produced was Nov. 1992, that makes it legal to import in November. Do you think that this might change the price of the current FD market?

are there 2 different engines?

ppl are discussing this on the MKIV supra forum as well but they have 2 years to go.

there are really 3 cars I'm deciding to buy next, NSX, RX7, and the MKIV Supra. Do you guys suggest a RHD import or 1 from the local market. There're not many choices in Canada.

niburu

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your basing your prices mostly what seems to be like RX-7club pricing, which is lowballer central
I'd buy a car here but never try to sell one
I don't think they will drop any further, you do - only time will truly tell which of us is right

TangoSore

Agreed!

MrVonWolfi

Just an FYI... The Supra may be worth more now, but, in 20 years, the FD should be WAY more valuable. The Supra is a 2+2 Gt, the FD is A Classic no nonsense sports/GT much along the lines of other great classic sports cars... the fact that its a Japanese car will hold its value down compared to the ferrari's porsche's etc (this could change too?), but then again, it didnt sell for as much originally. Between the performance, and the Beautiful/exotic chassis design, it has MUCH more long term collectability than a Supra, that is when we start talking Barret-Jackson type collecting of course....

moconnor

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Em, no - I based it on lots of sources: Autotrader/EBay/Cars.com/RX7Club/Craigslist/local papers/local dealers and a general familiarity with the Bay Area market (which tends to have higher than average national prices).

The only difference between RX7Club and most of the other sources is user feedback: if you list your junked-out 100k+ mile FD on RX7Club for $18k, people will tell you to take a hike; on Autotrader and the like, you can list whatever price you like and you will not be bothered by so-called lowballers - of course, you will not be bothered by buyers either.

To many people here base FD valuations on Autotrader asking prices, which are often 20-50% over realistic market value for FDs.

Here is a set of SF Bay Area Autotrader listings:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...993&advcd_on=n

Almost everybody is asking high teens, even for cars with 70k+ miles (or, god forbid, automatics). Do you think these prices are even close to the real market value of these cars? I know from personal experience buying 18 months ago and communicating with sellers since then for a possible second FD that they don't.