Even if you found one set of circumstances under which the FD would get better mileage than the Z-06 (I doubt it, but just for the sake of argument I will entertain the idea), the reality is that the FD burns more gas in general. At best, you've found the exception that proves the rule. I think the problem is that you don't accept that the Z-06 gets better mileage in general, which is something that the other folks know as fact. Arguing about "that one time when the FD might have gotten better mileage" is completely pointless.

-Max

 

Yeah you are a big help. You claim great gas mileage. You don't know how far you went, or how many gallons you used. You just "know" that the FD gets better mileage than the Vette........ even though EVERYONE else knows better. Keep on calling people ignorant ****** ....... just don't look in the mirror.

 

If you can't keep this a civil discussion, don't post at all. This is not an official warning, yet, just keep the temper down.

 

Sorry, you'd lose that bet. My father has a '03 Z06 and you aren't going to bet it's gas mileage on the highway or around town in the FD.

 

How the hell does the vette get such good MPG. Gearing, or what?

 

Partially.

 

Having driven my FD daily and my father's 2003 Vette on the side the gas mileage is unbelievably different. He works in a city with 25mph speed limits and stop signs GALORE....... 20.7mpg city.

 

GM makes one of, if not the best, push rod V-8's in the world.

Look at the HP they squeeze outta those babies.

It maintains eye-contact with many European DOHC V-8s.

And now GM has some ***-kicking 32V v8.

 

Come on Max. What "One time" are you talking about. When did I say that? Things said on this forum get twisted around. And Jim saying I get **** gas mileage is absoultely ridicuolous. I don't know many 12.0 cars that get that good of gas mileage period(which is what I ran at the time of the trip). I never compared it to that one time when the FD did get better gas mileage, I'm comparing it to a long drive I would like to see the Vette fair in. Obviously I don't do 6 hour drives frequently, I'm comparing it to what I've been through. Don't tell me it's pointless, it's true. Don't tell me what you read about the Vette in car magazines, and don't tell me what GM claims. You can never compare the drives because of traffic and location, and that's too bad I'd like to see it.

I built my car to whip pretty much whatever I can. And really that's what's important, smoking as much of those higher end cars as possible. When I go back to the track and the car goes 11.20's, I'm gonna be pretty damn happy. It'll be a good comprimise and a great all around non-nitroused street car. And, as long as I don't boost, the cars' gas mileage will be pretty close to what it was with the twins. Make the Z06 into an 11.20 car (without spray) and compare gas mileage again. Oh but that's off topic right..we're comparing stock figures.

The comparison is not fair, they don't make the 7 anymore. The closest should be a 2002 R against the Vette's best in 2002(if it's the Z06 then). And that way niether has the technological advantage. Compare the brand new Vette with an RX that has now been modded to compete with it. Apples with apples.
The name of this thread should have been changed to:"Rocky Marciano vs Mike Tyson".

 

wow, interesting thread howard, i like the comparisons in your initial post, good brain food.

... by the way, in about 5 seconds ill post a movie clip of when I chased down a lambo gallardo at BIR on wednesday :-)

I hope we get to run together at BIR soemday so you can teach me some tricks ;-)

 

um...the current Z06 does 12.0's stock.....sorry

Check the highway figures for a Vette/Z06....theyre 27-29mpg from every single car magazine in the world. Are you saying that multiple magazines would LIE to
the entire world about the Vette's incredible gas mileage?

Thats as simple as a cam, and the gas mileage will not suffer that drastically since it will be only a slightly more agressive grind.

....since when has the Spirit R had a different basic engine and turbo setup from our 93-95 FD's?

Sorry man. The C5/Z06 gets better gas mileage in city and highway.

 

Just a personal vendetta against Adam C about what he has written about me and other people in the past. And don't tell me to keep the temper down when I post something and get attacked? Don't play favourites Mahjik, you back me into a corner and I'm comin out fighting. You wanna keep it civil, tell Jim L not to discourage people from posting with under 500 threads, this isn't a private party, it's a public forum. I've heard enough insulting responses to innocent posts, I'm quite tired of it, but at least I've been on here to be watching for it.

 

Hardbodeez,

I sincerely apologize for my horrible insulting posts. I don't know what came over me to write something so rude and insensitive, especially in a public forum. I hope someday you will find it in your heart to forgive me.

 

Simple fact, no one "flamed" anyone until you posted "ignorant *****". That is a flame and against the rules. I was being nice about so just take it and move on. Most other mods would have probably put you in timeout for a few days (temp ban).

I have no problem with people swapping insults in "intelligent manners", that is called wit. However, when you resort to direct name calling, it's no longer wit and definitely not in an "intelligent manner".

 

I'd still have to say it's pretty close. The low compression is giving it the good gas mileage.

 

A) they've had an ***-kicking 32V V8 for years (LT5, 1991-1995), and B) the number of valves and arrangement of the cams don't dictate how much horsepower an engine can make.

Airflow dictates how much horsepower an engine can make. If you can get enough airflow with only 2 valves, then there's no justification for the size, weight, complexity, and expense of overhead cams. Smaller engines need multiple valves (and overhead cams to actuate them) because they don't have the bore diameter for big valves, and they have to rev in order to ingest enough air to make decent power.

 

It wouldn't matter, the rotary engine is incredibly fuel inefficient.

Still wouldn't matter.

Maybe it should be renamed "Hardheaded Canadian can't get it through his thick skull that his FD gets shitty gas mileage"...

Everyone else gets it. What's your glitch?

 

from an outsiders prospective, none of the posts attacked you...they just pointed out that you were incorrect in your assumptions....

your stubborness, however, is impressive...and if you take that as a personal attack....sorry it wasn't intended

 

Even if they did, you could drop by a Chevrolet dealership and look at the EPA mileage sticker on the window of any new Corvette. You also have two independent sources in this thread who know precisely what gas mileage the Z06 gets. I used one for my daily driver for a year. What's your data based on? Gut instinct?

What low compression?!?

 

There's no "intelligent manner" who are you kidding. Get rid of the BS flags, pretty much any icon, since they mostly deroggatory and insulting. How can you let that go, Mahjik (A monkey masterbating??) and call that intelligent manners? Many people are afraid to post from being ridiculed or insulted, let the flames begin, right? How many times have you heard "Do a search!"...well, close the forum and make it one big search engine, don't give someone hell for asking. Previuosly, I make a post and someone calls me names because I'm Canadian? WTF is that? Not at all did he get banned, not a warning. If you're gonna insult Canadians, I'm coming at you full fk'ing blast.
The moderators don't get on people quick enough. And they let some people with more posts(or their friends) run their mouths like they own the forum. This is how it escalates to what it is. I'm gonna post, if I get attacked I'm coming right back at them. I'm not about to be insulted by anyone, let alone some kid.
If you're gonna ban me for protecting myself, go ahead!

 

Maybe it should be renamed "Hardheaded Canadian can't get it through his thick skull that his FD gets shitty gas mileage"...




Thanks Jim. My point exactly!!!

 

Thanks Jim. My point exactly!!!

 

First, your blast isn't that impressive, and second, no one insulted Canadians. I used the word "Canadian" as a descriptor to refer to you because calling you a dipshit isn't allowed by forum rules...

 

The only point you've made so far is that you're ignorant and happy to stay that way.

 

I thought that to but when i PMed RE-A about it they said this:

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Thank you PM me.
2004 Real race car is a pipe frame one.
This kit doesn't fit a stock FD.
Now, RE-A are manufacturing a streetable 2004 GT kit.
I will let you know right after I get details.

Thanks

That the only reason i thought so and in this pic that wouldnt be to hard to believe. But i've never seen it in person so i have no idea, but i would guess if you took the front end off the front part of the frame has been replaced with bars.

just a guess
~Luke