U sure u didn't have a tail-wind

 

That drag car has even less common parts than that Supdawg, if I recall.

 

What thread with subjective posts doesn't?

 

He didn't give the mileage he drove, or the amount of gas he used. Then he claimed good gas mileage .......... and YOU gave him a break. You must be getting soft in your old age

 

I know for a fact that at 6,000 rpm and full boost on my stock motor I get about 3 mpg

 

Granted as vehicles age, their market bearing price decreases while their performance per dollar value increases, but keeping realistic, I doubt most people buying an FD at that price can (or would even want to) afford to invest 27k into their FD. We're still fighting an uphill battle against a better car no matter how you look at it though...

 

Much less. Under those widebody skins, those are still production Supras. That "Cavalier" is as much a Cavalier as Abel Ibarra's "FD" drag car is still an FD... basically, a Cavalier-shaped skin over a fully custom tube frame chassis with an engine that could loosely be said to be "GM-based", probably with a narrowed Ford 9" out back and a Lenco transmission in between.

 

Man, most cars look so dam good with a widebody skirt and lowered.

 

No paper race -

Fact 1 - It's 40K plus for the new vette.
Fact 2 - There will be many thousands of them produced before the C7 appears.

So for about the same money you can have 2 very well prepared 3rd gens. One as your daily driver and one as a "play toy" with money left for tires, track days, etc. Best of all you will rarely see another one on the road. It still amazes me that an 11 year old car can still get the second looks that mine does every day.

Fact 3 - The Z06 will outrun a 3rd gen given an equal level of driver and modifications.

Yea, but it is not 2X faster than the 3rd gen by a long margin.

 

You are going to compare the price of a brand spanking new car to a car that has been beat on for 10-11 years?

The FD price back when it was out was nearing $40k new. Today, that price would be well over $50k new.

 

I think both of u have good points.

 

Which was why I mentioned in the second sentence regarding the thermodynamic efficiency of the Wankel....

 

That's never an argument that holds water. There is more to a vehicle's price than speed. Most of price goes towards the quality of materials, manufacture and refinement along with overhead costs. You could drink champagne from a paper cup too.

The Grassroots Motorsports Challenge proves that it is very easy to go very fast very cheaply. However not even the builders of those cars would argue with anyone claiming that it takes more than numbers on paper to make a car "better" than another...

 

I bought one of my 3rd gens new in '93 so I know it has not been "beat on".
It cost me 29K and change.
My second was a one owner car that I bought with 68K miles from a doctor who kept great maintenace records. If it was "beaten on", it was not by him (he did have a teen age son though). Both of these cars now have over 100k miles on them. One is my daily driver.

Two old cars can be as reliable and almost as fast as one new one and look Ma no monthly payment.

 

on that note, I believe the Toyota Pruis has a thermo efficiency of 38%.

 

i cant belive there are 115 fing replies in this .... 116 now lol

 

117

 

As far as i know, the "supra" and "rx-7" in those races are full tube frame cars as well. At least i know the 7 is.


But do you know what i heard about that Supra in those test? I heard that.......

Just having fun

 

U sure about that?

I thought they were production chassis with wide body kits and obviously stripped.

 

They are.

 

oh, i was talking to coolduke.....

 

Jim, I guess I didn't speculate the situation properly before you and Adam C jumped the thread. A 45 minute wait through stop and go traffic at the border, and another 45 minute wait through stop and go through an accident site 30 miles from Columbus. The full tank cost me $47 some odd dollars Canadian, and I was on empty when I got there so I don't know how close I was, but, I didn't fill up. I would LOVE to see the Vette drive the same run through the same traffic(6 hours) on one tank of gas. I guess this is really important to you to look it up on mapquest though....but you don't have my real address, it's a little further than what you read.
And how come, all Adam C does is jump threads? If you're not here to help people, then go on some dating chat forums. I can't stand seeing people gang up on others, but one day if you keep drinking your milk you can grow up and fend for yourself. Until then, why don't you keep your insulting comments to yourself you ignorant *****!

 

Doesn't matter. In case you hadn't noticed yet, your car gets **** gas mileage.

 

harbodeez, it is simply a fact that the Z-06 gets better mileage than the FD. It may be hard to believe, but it is true.

-Max

 

Definately hard to believe. If I still had my twins, I would love to go and do that same run again against the Vette and I would put my money down.