3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

F4 for your FD

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-25-04, 03:28 PM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Nick13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Browns Mills, NJ
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
F4 for your FD

First of all F4 tape is an orange colored tape that we use on the aircraft engines I work on, it is heat resistant.


which brings me to the point of this thread, I figured why not wrap all the wire harnesses on my FD in this tape , since the 13b creates so much heat, the tape would protect the harnesses from chaffing getting burnt up ect...


Good idea?

PS if you are interested in a roll of the tape send me a PM and I will see what I can do for you.
Old 06-25-04, 03:35 PM
  #2  
RX-7 Bad Ass

iTrader: (55)
 
DaleClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 15,399
Received 2,438 Likes on 1,509 Posts
Any pics of it? Sounds neat. Do you know the heat range?

Dale
Old 06-25-04, 03:41 PM
  #3  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Nick13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Browns Mills, NJ
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yea lemme get a shot of the tape, havent done it yet just contimplating on it.


The EGT on the aircraft engine reaches temps near the 300 degree mark, and the core itself even higher.

and the tape still holds its own.
Old 06-25-04, 03:43 PM
  #4  
Forever Modified

iTrader: (1)
 
lopedl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: WA
Posts: 1,423
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
But what happens when you need to get to the connectors, would it be a big orange sticky mess .
Old 06-25-04, 03:48 PM
  #5  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Nick13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Browns Mills, NJ
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by lopedl
But what happens when you need to get to the connectors, would it be a big orange sticky mess .

the tape doesn't melt.

and you don't have to wrap the connectors themselves, just the wire, BUT if you did wrap the connectors then you would just cut the tape off with a knife.
Old 06-25-04, 06:29 PM
  #6  
Cheap Bastard

iTrader: (2)
 
adam c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca
Posts: 8,370
Received 50 Likes on 42 Posts
Orange in my engine compartment ....... no thanks
Old 06-25-04, 06:43 PM
  #7  
fart on a friends head!!!

 
rotorbrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: sheppard AFB, TX
Posts: 4,104
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
wrap it with the tape and put some black loom over it. . .

paul
Old 06-25-04, 06:48 PM
  #8  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Nick13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Browns Mills, NJ
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It also comes in black, the black is not "as" heat resistant as the orange but im sure it could do the job just fine
Old 06-25-04, 06:51 PM
  #9  
Ready.Set.Gone

 
Romancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Jersey
Posts: 1,520
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
even without black loom orange would bring flare to a lot of engine compartments anyway. A lot of people have blue pipes and stuff. If the aftermarket had a orange turbo with a lot of performance gain people wouldnt care about the color just the performance gain. If enough of Rex users use it, it would be an Rx-7 trademark heh. Yah never know till u try. Then the average ricers would have orange tape in their engine compartments all over the place . They will look at ur car and be like "whoa an Rx-7....got the orange tape"

Last edited by Romancer; 06-25-04 at 06:55 PM.
Old 06-25-04, 07:01 PM
  #10  
Urban Combat Vet

iTrader: (16)
 
Sgtblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Mid-west
Posts: 12,024
Received 866 Likes on 615 Posts
Count me in the "interested" column, especially if it comes in black. Looking forward to pics. Any addtional specs on this stuff...tolerances, antipated age and of course, cost?
Old 06-25-04, 07:41 PM
  #11  
Planning my come back

iTrader: (7)
 
MR_Rick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 3,393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It won't leave a residue. It work best if you wrap half of it over itself. I didn't think of this before but good one. while my engine is apart I'm going to do this. I have this tape all over the place at work. I think I even have blue.
Old 06-25-04, 08:25 PM
  #12  
Smells Like Pork

 
mini-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: nj
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
im interested!
Old 06-25-04, 08:57 PM
  #13  
Ahhhh Motherland!

 
austinsFD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: CA: Van Nuys
Posts: 715
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
whats f4?
Old 06-26-04, 02:48 AM
  #14  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Nick13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Browns Mills, NJ
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I can get the tape for free at work, of course if someone wants some there will be a price for it shipped, probably 10 or something.


as for the tapes limits, we use it here on aircraft engines, and they produce much more heat then a rotary does, so im sure it would work out just fine.
Old 06-26-04, 10:30 AM
  #15  
Stuck in Afghanistan

 
yetisoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Fort Campbell
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Nick13b do you use "peanut butter" tape at all. Its basically a rubber like replacement for electrical tape, but only adhere's to itself, which is in my opinion what makes the tape so cool. There is not adhesive at all on it. I use it on some of the electrical repairs I do on the aircraft that I work on in the army.

Also are we perhaps talking about the same tape? The stuff I use is black with a thin blue line on the top that is hardly noticable and is thicker in the middle than on the edges.
Old 06-26-04, 10:41 AM
  #16  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Nick13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Browns Mills, NJ
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by yetisoldier
Nick13b do you use "peanut butter" tape at all. Its basically a rubber like replacement for electrical tape, but only adhere's to itself, which is in my opinion what makes the tape so cool. There is not adhesive at all on it. I use it on some of the electrical repairs I do on the aircraft that I work on in the army.

Also are we perhaps talking about the same tape? The stuff I use is black with a thin blue line on the top that is hardly noticable and is thicker in the middle than on the edges.

Yea I believe so because the tape I am speaking of only adheres to itself, we call it F4 tape, you must call it peanut butter
Old 06-26-04, 11:22 AM
  #17  
I can haz rotary?

iTrader: (1)
 
Jesuscookies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 3,793
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Im interested.
Old 06-26-04, 02:09 PM
  #18  
Smells Like Pork

 
mini-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: nj
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
let me know how much shipping is to 07083. i would pick it up since its in jersey but i cant drive for a month =/
Old 06-26-04, 02:48 PM
  #19  
Urban Combat Vet

iTrader: (16)
 
Sgtblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Mid-west
Posts: 12,024
Received 866 Likes on 615 Posts
Since there's quite alot of interest in this it might save you some hassle if you can find out who manufactures this stuff and, if it's available, who sells it?
Old 06-26-04, 02:57 PM
  #20  
Lawn Ornament

 
ejmack1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: St Louis, USA
Posts: 2,416
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
send me some and ill put some on my modified engine harness, and take pics of it installed, you'd be able to see it pretty good seeing as i have barely anything in my engine compartment
Old 06-26-04, 03:08 PM
  #21  
None

 
Kevin T. Wyum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally posted by Nick13B
yea lemme get a shot of the tape, havent done it yet just contimplating on it.


The EGT on the aircraft engine reaches temps near the 300 degree mark, and the core itself even higher.

and the tape still holds its own.
I assume you must have meant the coolant temp or dropped a zero from " near the 300 degree mark"?

Interesting idea for the tape actually. I'll have to find some quick. I need it for my Motec harness running into the firewall above the turbo's.


Kevin T. Wyum
Old 06-26-04, 03:53 PM
  #22  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
Trexthe3rd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: ATL, GA U.S.
Posts: 1,283
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I hate to brin this up but no one seemed to have asked.
The tape it self stands up to heat well, but what is it's thermal insulation property? It really serves no purpose if it doesn't insulate well. The biggest problem the wiring harness faces is the thermal damage to the plastic (becomes brittle and flakey) and accelerated oxidation to the metal. If the tape doesn't insulate very well, there is no difference between cooking in 250 deg in the open vs. cooking in 250 deg inside a wrap.
Old 06-26-04, 04:08 PM
  #23  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Nick13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Browns Mills, NJ
Posts: 514
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Trexthe3rd
I hate to brin this up but no one seemed to have asked.
The tape it self stands up to heat well, but what is it's thermal insulation property? It really serves no purpose if it doesn't insulate well. The biggest problem the wiring harness faces is the thermal damage to the plastic (becomes brittle and flakey) and accelerated oxidation to the metal. If the tape doesn't insulate very well, there is no difference between cooking in 250 deg in the open vs. cooking in 250 deg inside a wrap.
Like I said this tape is used on jet engines, its insulates and protects the wire harness
Old 06-26-04, 08:33 PM
  #24  
5yr member, joined 2001

 
JONSKI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Marco Island, FL
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally posted by adam c
Orange in my engine compartment ....... no thanks
adam c brings up a good point: If it doesn't look good, then it doesn't protect.
Old 06-26-04, 10:38 PM
  #25  
Full Member

 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Oak Harbor, WA
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey we call the Stuff Strawberry tape......Because it smells just like Strawberrys.......By the way they also sell it at Autozone.....just in really really small rolls..... It really is a great insulator for wire and it is superwaterproof. I used it to wrap my connectors on my aircontrol valve that I am not using anymore.. (watertight)...I used the black on mine...but the orange one is out there to make it obvious that the connector is wrapped for quick location.

It apears to be made of a strechy rubber like subtance that is about 1 inch wide and 1/16 inch thick. It only sticks to itself ....but when it does stick to itself ,it is there forever. Cuts off 100% clean when U cut a slit in it with a knife.

I could possibly buy a case and sell them out if anyone is interested.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:18 PM.