RotorMotor

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well here's the picture that im trying to get a little more info on, and possibly locate the stuff to do a conversion (everyones always talking about j-spec conversions.... how about some e-spec stuff for once ). anyway, id like to have the ability to change the angle of the lights. at high speeds at night i have VERY little visibility... up to about 100 (with the brights on) i can see enough road ahead to feel confident about whats ahead... but anything faster and i cant see where im going untill im already there... not so cool.



anyway if anyone can help let me know... and no, im not really interested in the fixed light kits despite the better optics... i guess im a creature of habit but i like the pop-ups . -heath

RotorMotor

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anyone have any info at all?? are there motors that control the headlights?

DaleClark

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That's cool! I never knew they had that!

I know a number of European cars have headlight levelers. If you put more load in the car, you can adjust the headlights so you don't blind oncoming drivers when you have a whole bunch of stuff in the back. I would imagine the system is some sort of motor that can raise and lower the headlights.

Finding the parts required will be a BIG chore. It's hard enough to find Japanese parts! I would imagine at minimum you'd need the headlight mechanisms with the motor and that switch, although there might be a "brain" that is also in the system.

Might want to post in one of the European forums to see if you can find someone with an E-spec car that can do some research for you. I believe the FD was pretty low volume in Europe, so finding the part will be VERY hard. Not exactly something you'll find in junkyards in Germany . Getting the parts new might be VERY pricey.

I'm with you - I dig the pop-ups, and this mod appeals to me as well. It's just a daunting task to find out more about it. Where did you get that pic in the first place?

Dale

Compilez

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Wow, I like that. I wouldn't mind having one of those too considering I will most likely be having the pop-ups for a good long time. ($850 for sleeks isn't really a price I like just for lights)

I also like their exhaust over heat light.

Let us know what you find out.

fr7

66-6F0 : SWITCH,LEVEL-HEAD LAMP : FD14-66-6F0A

http://www.exist.ru/resultr.asp?pcod...code=01c&sr=38

51-210A : UNIT(R),LEVELING-HEAD LAMP : FD14-51-210A

http://www.exist.ru/resultr.asp?pcod...code=01c&sr=38


51-220B : UNIT(L),LEVELING-HEAD LAMP : FD14-51-220A

http://www.exist.ru/resultr.asp?pcod...code=01c&sr=38

51-212 : BRACKET(R),UNIT LEVELLING : FD14-51-212

http://www.exist.ru/resultr.asp?pcod...code=01c&sr=38

51-222 : BRACKET(L),UNIT LEVELLING : FD14-51-222

http://www.exist.ru/resultr.asp?pcod...code=01c&sr=38

RotorMotor

iTrader: (5)

THANK YOU very very much... this is exactly the information that i was looking for! as my project car stands now i have no lights (from an engine fire) so i though no would be a good time to upgrade if possible.

so it seems that there is the motors, brackets, and the switch? i wonder if there are any other control units, relays, harnesses, etc that i would need? and i wonder how it plugs in to the harness (or if the e-spec cars have a different harness).

lastly, if anyone reading reading this in europe actually HAS this system on their car, could you comment on how it operates, and its effectiveness? id love to see some pictures comparing the 3 light positions. thanks once again to everyone... lets keep gathering info on this... ill definatly try this conversion if it seems possible. -heath

(PS if anyone knows the countries where this lighting system is used, please post a list... that way i can start calling around different places and try to get the cheapest prices if other people are also interested in doing this).

DaleClark

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Kickass!

I imagine the wiring is gonna have to be done the old-fashioned way. I SERIOUSLY doubt the wiring for that assembly is in the US cars - heck, my R package doesn't even have the wiring for the fog light switch!

Looks like the motor simply replaces the bottom headlight adjustment bolt and moves the pre-set bolt back and forth to achieve the leveling.

The other big question of course is COST. I doubt you'll be able to get those parts from Mazda USA - might have to order the parts from one of the European Mazda's, and the weak dollar won't be helping the cost.


Dale
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Another good question is what countries this was available in - Germany, France, UK...?

jeremyb

Feel like posting a write up when you're done

Offtopic: Hey rotormotor what city are you in? I'm in fremont .

Jeremy

bolo_fd

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hi guys nice find

i was wondering, for people that have xenon projectors with no highbeams, if it would help by changing the level of the headlights so it points the lights further down the road?

fr7

Harnesses are different . I don't think there are other relays or control units .
I am not at home actually , so i can't see and post pictures...
You can realy see the the difference of lighting on the road , but on the headlight
itself the differece is insignificant .
multirotor is parting out an euro FD , so you can ask him :
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=386042

RotorMotor

iTrader: (5)

oakland... and i will most definatly be doing a writeup on this and every other install that i do for my project car (its a 20b... so there are lots of things that i will be documenting).

and i go back and fourth from oakland and santa cruz (i recently moved to SC, but i come home often to oakland where the project car is ). -heath

RotorMotor

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i meant comparison pictures between the different "positions" of the light on the road. -heath

jeremyb

Ohh... looking foward to the future write ups!!!

Jeremy

Compilez

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Awesome. That info was fast! From the looks of the link Russia also has this. .ru I think is Russia, though I may be wrong. Can't wait for a write up on this.

Compilez

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Ouch, not having the 20B Project at your place of living must suck. Good luck with it.

pfgasket

There were less than 200 FDs officially imported into the UK, so rocking horse and **** springs to mind! I think you will find that the three position switch is actually stepless, the numbers are just to give you a clue whats going on. My Peugeot 406 has this type of system on it, and it is quite effective. I have had four FDs which I imported from Japan and none of them had the adjustable lights.

speedx7

nice find man, when someone decides to do this conversion keep us updated

dznutzuk

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Hey guys, all european cars have them including non euro such as russia, bulgaria,etc. I'm in greece we also have them here, there's also the headlight washer system if you didn't know it-there's a little washer on the black front cover right under the lamp. Here's a question for you guys, have you ever opened the black tunnel cover in the car-you know with the ashtray and switches and so on, and ever wondered what the hell that blue connector is?

RotorMotor

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what do you mean its stepless? and have you rode in a euro-FD with these? im looking for someone that actually has this on their car that i can talk to about it. thanks, heath

RotorMotor

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ok, i dont speak russian and i dont know if im doing the $$ conversion properly.... but according to yahoo the switch costs $308 US dollars. is this possible or am i screwing up teh conversion?

also someone mentioned that ALL euro-fd's had this lighting system. does that mean i can call a UK dealarship to get the price (because i speak their language).

bolo_fd

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i think stepless means the more u move the **** the higher or lower the lights will move. it is not just 3 angles

cruiser

Yes, we have that in our FDs
And yes, it does change the level of the lights. I'd say the visible distance can change up to 40 meters (120feet yo ) or so.

Anyone want to exchange his sleek headlight kit for my euro-spec lighting system ?

RotorMotor

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yes! which one do you want? hehe.

so is it really not usefull? what im trying to determine is if i will be able to significantly raise the headlight level more than the stock US level (which im assuming is rather conservative). by the way... do your stock fog lights suck as much as the US ones??? because here they are just for show and dont put any extra useable light on the road

im going to call one of the UK mazda places... ill (hopefully) get back to everyone w. prices etc

M104-AMG

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Yikes! What a PITA setup.

My 1988 and 1993 Mercedes uses a vaccuum operated system that was SO easy to retofit (install Euro headlamps, install the switch, T-into an existing vaccuum line w/a check valve, and run another vaccuum line between the switch and the headlamp motors).

:-) neil

cruiser

Its useful, I usually run around with long lights and this switch set to minimum. But still, stock headlights suck.