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Old 06-23-04, 01:57 AM
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ECU question

I tried searching but couldnt find anything that could answer my question. Can I use a 16 bit hks F-CON piggy back ecu on my '93 8 bit fd? I don't need to change the harness do I? I have the correct 16 bit harness that connects the stock ecu and the hks unit, is that ok? I'm just wondering, don't want to create issues. And also, I got the boost sensor with it, does it replace the stock boost sensor? Do I basically swap them out and wire the new one up? Or do I leave the stock one in and add this second one?
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I'm just wondering if you still think that you got the HKS computer for such a good deal when you could have just bought a used Pettit ecu for $400 or less that will probably work better.....
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Well I dont think I got a good deal or a bad one. It's temporary until I can get more money. I just need something so the car can run well enough and safe enough until I can get more money which should be a couple months. I don't know why you gotta hate on me for buying an ecu for my reasons... And you didn't even answer my question.
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The series-6 (92-95) wiring was quite different to the later series-8 version (99-02).

Your 92 model will have the wrong plugs to start with for the ECU aswell as many missing wires that are required for the series-8 version.

Its a major job to do the wiring conversion despite the fact that the car looks the same from the oiutside.

Reality however finds about 40% of the internal wiring was changed from the 92 model to the 99 model.

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I'm not "hating" (God, I HATE that ******* word use). If you can't afford a $400 Pettit, you shouldn't be modding (or even own) this car. Get a manual boost controller, keep to 10 psi, and drive on the stock ecu, if you can't afford anything else.

I don't see the point in spending tons of effort to get something to work when it may not work very well in the end anyway. Just my 2 cents.
Old 06-23-04, 11:29 AM
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o good god rynberg, don't give me the I shouldn't own the car speach. I don't need to hear that from you. I easily afford everything I've done, but the problem is I spent all my money on a short shifter, carbon fiber wing, large streetport, midpipe and catback exhaust. That's where all my money went, don't lecture me. I don't even know why I'm explaining myself to you. All I wanted to know, was can I use the 16 bit F-CON on my 8 bit '93. Remember, it's a piggy back ecu.

rynberg I really don't know why you are trying to make an enemy out of me. I'm not here to make enemie's, im here to have fun and make new friends who all share the same passion as I do with these cars. I hope we can work out our differences someday, but you need to work a little bit on the way you talk to people through these threads sometimes. Some people will misinterpret your writings since there is no body language or the way the words are spoken to go with the words. So, can't we all just get along??

So I CAN use the stock ecu on my mods if I stay below 10 psi?? If so then screw this hks unit, I'll get rid of it and save up for a PFC now.

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Old 06-23-04, 11:37 AM
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LOL, Rynberg your a riot!

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Heh I think Ryanberg just strongly dislikes people are are below age 25 and/or cheap with their FDs
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yeah, but bricke im not trying to be cheap with my car. On the contrary I've spent over $20,000 on getting this puppy prepped and in good shape. I don't even have the car at the moment, it's busy getting a rebuild and streetport. Like I said I will buy a pfc now and go get it tuned. I have enough to go buy a pfc right now, I just wanted to save enough for tuning costs too. But I'm also buying a CF KS hood and radiator. Stilldebating on a fuel pump, injectors and fpr. I want to stay stock twins for now so I don't think I need to get fuel mods as of yet. But it would be nice to have. Well thanks for the help rynberg even though we're on a bad footing.
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Originally posted by bricke
Heh I think Ryanberg just strongly dislikes people are are below age 25 and/or cheap with their FDs
under 25 actualy 19. i spend more then spiritR does on his fd :P. as for the pettit ecu it worked great on my car but i didnt' have a street port.
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Old 06-23-04, 12:23 PM
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It's the over-use of the word "hating" that is the problem. Not under-age, not cheap, not ill-considered mod.s. Well, I guess those can add up, too.

It's the aesthetic of shotgun slang as a retort to honest criticism, or poorly received advice that is grating.

.02. (A used PFC for $700+ w/ a tune would save you some potential heartache, IMHO).
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Heh I think Ryanberg just strongly dislikes people are are below age 25 and/or cheap with their FDs
No comment....

Actually age is much less important to me than the "being cheap" factor. Although, I strongly feel that no teenager should drive this car. But that's been hashed out many times before...

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yeah, but bricke im not trying to be cheap with my car. On the contrary I've spent over $20,000 on getting this puppy prepped and in good shape.
Good thing you spent the money in the right place -- short shifter, carbon fiber wing and hood, etc. Your car will look great sitting in the driveway with a blown engine!

Be smart. If you are spending all of that money on rebuilding the engine and everything, do it right with the ecu. You have no idea how to use or integrate that ecu, and nobody else does either. Why? Because no one else here uses it. That should tell you something. I think it's time for you to cut your losses and sell the HKS. Buy a Pettit ecu for $400 and run 10 psi until you can afford a PFC and tuning. You can then sell your Pettit for $400 and pretty much break even on the deal.
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i think what pisses him off (much like i don't understand your logic, but don't care as its not my car) is that you spent all that money and didn't get an ECU which is probably one of the most important things you could have gotten to start with if you were gonna mod... again, my $.02

good luck with it though
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^ I agree. I actually think if you got plans for the FD PFC should be on the list of reliability mods.
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Originally posted by rynberg
No comment....

Actually age is much less important to me than the "being cheap" factor. Although, I strongly feel that no teenager should drive this car. But that's been hashed out many times before...



Good thing you spent the money in the right place -- short shifter, carbon fiber wing and hood, etc. Your car will look great sitting in the driveway with a blown engine!

Be smart. If you are spending all of that money on rebuilding the engine and everything, do it right with the ecu. You have no idea how to use or integrate that ecu, and nobody else does either. Why? Because no one else here uses it. That should tell you something. I think it's time for you to cut your losses and sell the HKS. Buy a Pettit ecu for $400 and run 10 psi until you can afford a PFC and tuning. You can then sell your Pettit for $400 and pretty much break even on the deal.
haha, no teenager should drive this car .
but i do agree on the fact that he should ditch the out side mods, like the wing and the hood and just get the pfc to start do the othere mods later. get the car running in tip top shape then do the out side
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Originally posted by rynberg
No comment....

Actually age is much less important to me than the "being cheap" factor. Although, I strongly feel that no teenager should drive this car. But that's been hashed out many times before...



Good thing you spent the money in the right place -- short shifter, carbon fiber wing and hood, etc. Your car will look great sitting in the driveway with a blown engine!

Be smart. If you are spending all of that money on rebuilding the engine and everything, do it right with the ecu. You have no idea how to use or integrate that ecu, and nobody else does either. Why? Because no one else here uses it. That should tell you something. I think it's time for you to cut your losses and sell the HKS. Buy a Pettit ecu for $400 and run 10 psi until you can afford a PFC and tuning. You can then sell your Pettit for $400 and pretty much break even on the deal.
Well this is true, I did spend all of this money and not buy an ecu. I'm planning on selling it for sure, whether I make my money back or not. I'm just facing the fact that I bought the wrong ecu and I'm going straight for the pfc not pettit. Sorry rynberg for our missunderstanding and such. Now that that's cleared up, are we cool now? We were probably cool in the beginning I was just giving you a headache. I understand where your coming from though seeing me do all of this and no ecu being a smart way to go but I chose the long dumb way around. At least I didn't blow the motor cause of my stupidity. I'm also selling the wing to some honda kid to get some extra cash for tuning. Don't want the wing anyways. But yeah, I'll get everything taken care of. Thanks for straightening me out, I almost lost it there for a while.
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Sorry rynberg for our missunderstanding and such. Now that that's cleared up, are we cool now?
We're cool on my end. I already have enough people on this forum who think I'm a dick...
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Originally posted by rynberg
We're cool on my end. I already have enough people on this forum who think I'm a dick...
The truth hurts, huh? j/k.


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