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Old 06-23-10, 09:15 AM
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easiest to install dual oil cooler kit

Which one is the least hassle? By that I mean as little assembly or modification required as possible. As close to "bolt up and go" as possible.
Old 06-23-10, 10:51 AM
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Stock .

Are you going aftermarket? You can also do the trick of using a stock driver's side oil cooler on the passenger side with the appropriate fittings.

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Originally Posted by DaleClark
You can also do the trick of using a stock driver's side oil cooler on the passenger side with the appropriate fittings.
A friend of mine is looking into dual oil coolers for his '94 PEP. Ease of install is a huge factor here because his time is limited due to extensive traveling for work. Adapting a driver side oil cooler is pretty much the exact opposite of what I'm talking about here. Hunting down parts and trying to get crap to fit is too much hassle in this case, plus then you still have a 17 year old stock oil cooler.

I imagine buying a full OEM setup off an R1 would be pretty expensive from Ray Crowe (if available)? Maybe I should research prices off a full used R1 setup at least for comparison sake. On the R1 it's just the oil cooler and then some mounting brackets and lines right?
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If I were doing a setup today, this is the direction I would go:

http://sakebombgarage.com/wp/?page_id=108
Old 06-23-10, 05:30 PM
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I have metric to 10an adapters that i bought from rotaryextreme long ago, they fit in the stock oil lines so you don't need to replace the front or the oil fiter pedestal banjo bolts/lines. If I was to make my own kit I'd use them but I went with a cwr dual 19row instead so they're somewhere left unused... I should sell them
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Originally Posted by mahjik
if i were doing a setup today, this is the direction i would go:

http://sakebombgarage.com/wp/?page_id=108

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Old 06-23-10, 11:10 PM
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Heres an route i went before the Sakebomb kit came out...
http://www.banzai-racing.com/efini_dual_oil_cooler.htm

being in South Florida I chose not to install the Mocal Thermostat
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Originally Posted by arghx
Which one is the least hassle? By that I mean as little assembly or modification required as possible. As close to "bolt up and go" as possible.
The OEM R1/R2 dual oil cooler kit is the best option if you want to guarantee perfect fitment and easy installation. All base and touring models already have available room and mounting holes for the R1/R2 oil cooler lines and its associated hangers and bolts. Obviously, this comes at the cost of less surface area available for cooling, compared to other aftermarket kits.

It is a relatively painless install, and should be done with the bumper and radiator removed, although, some have claim that it isn't necessary. Time of install is about 2 - 3 hrs and requires basic hand tools. You need to also remove the large banjo bolt which connect the non-R1/R2 oil cooler line to the block, which I believe requires a 23mm (?) wrench.

I would purchase used off the forums ($300 - $450), as there are usually 1 or 2 sets available. But make sure every line and mounting bracket is included.
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If you want something larger than stock the rotorsports racing kit fits great and is easy to install
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+1 for the Sakebomb kit. I have no personal experience with it, but I know it is one of the few kits that comes with instructions. Not only this but the kit is very good quality (going off of list of what is included) and would provide better oil cooling than installing an R1/R2 passenger oil cooler.
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The "Rotorsports" Dual Oil cooler Kit is also a Parallel Flow design which has proven to be over 20% more efficient than "in series" systems and uses 25 row Fluidyne Coolers with the same external dimensions, Mocal oil thermostat, and SS lines are pre-assembled & pressure tested by Goodridge USA. so everything fits and functions properly. Kits have been tested & proven by customers & racers for many years.
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Banzai Racing - you can buy that oil culers for 80$ each on ebay...after that all you need is line and fitings whitch would be another 150-200 $ from jegs.com....

and some fabrication...if you are one the buget you will save alot if you can do it your self there is no need to pay 1000+$ for some kits...


this is actualy one of my next projects....
Old 06-25-10, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
As close to "bolt up and go" as possible.

stock my friend. There is nothing that will fit better and faster with less hassle than stock.
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Originally Posted by serbRX7
Banzai Racing - you can buy that oil culers for 80$ each on ebay...after that all you need is line and fitings whitch would be another 150-200 $ from jegs.com....

and some fabrication...if you are one the buget you will save alot if you can do it your self there is no need to pay 1000+$ for some kits...


this is actualy one of my next projects....
Did you even read his first post?

He wants a COMPLETE kit, which was very clearly stated. What you're suggesting involves, buying all the fittings, lines and the coolers; then he has to measure cut and assemble each line (cutting your fingers on stainless braids sucks) then fabricate brackets to hold the coolers in place. Let's not forget all the miscellaneous hardware and the oil thermostat. If you're a DIYer then great, enjoy it. But why bother when you can buy EVERYTHING needed at once from one person? Trust me you won't be saving that much money if you plunked down the money on decent oil coolers and quality lines/fittings.
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No way man, these things either (a) grow on trees for free or (b) are available for like 12 bucks courtesy of chinese slave labor. Those damn vendors charge way too much for their parts, their time isn't worth a thing
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this is not Not Exactly Rocket Science.... and yeas god damn vendors do charge alot ..

i can put that kit together with brackets for a 1000$ i will make out with 600$$ in my pocket any one wanna buy...


OMG dude i got to put 10an fiting on the hose i might ***** my finger

if he is capable of thaking the old cooler of i am shour he can conect some fittings

and again why would any one pay extra 600$ for someone to do this

oil thermostat $109.99 - thats used by banzai
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...Oil_Thermostat

oil thermostat $53.99 - same thing as first one just more affordable
http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/13011/10002/-1

20 ft of 10an hose 121.99$ from jegs more then needed for 2 kits

oilcooler 70$ each this are large would work realy good with GT-C front bar- crxracing has many options
Overall Size: 13x7.5x2 inch
Core Size: 11x7.5x2 inch
Inlet & Outlet: An 10
Inlet Outlet Center Distance: 10"
Rows: 25
Material: 100% Aluminum

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hi-Pe...Q5fAccessories
http://www.jegs.com/i/Russell/799/632190/10002/-1


and now you go and pay for this samething 1000$+ just becouse someone per cut some line and conected fitings and put a name on it....wow poeple..

if i can do it for 400$ imagine what they put it together for as they do not pay retail

so pick your poison

instalation time will be same on any after market kit ther is nothing you can realy do in 5min

There is no Fixing Stupid
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This should get interesting
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Time is money. When you have one you frequently don't have the other. Such is the case for my friend.
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Originally Posted by serbRX7
this is not Not Exactly Rocket Science.... and yeas god damn vendors do charge alot ..

i can put that kit together with brackets for a 1000$ i will make out with 600$$ in my pocket any one wanna buy...


OMG dude i got to put 10an fiting on the hose i might ***** my finger

if he is capable of thaking the old cooler of i am shour he can conect some fittings

and again why would any one pay extra 600$ for someone to do this

oil thermostat $109.99 - thats used by banzai
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...Oil_Thermostat

oil thermostat $53.99 - same thing as first one just more affordable
http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/13011/10002/-1

20 ft of 10an hose 121.99$ from jegs more then needed for 2 kits

oilcooler 70$ each this are large would work realy good with GT-C front bar- crxracing has many options
Overall Size: 13x7.5x2 inch
Core Size: 11x7.5x2 inch
Inlet & Outlet: An 10
Inlet Outlet Center Distance: 10"
Rows: 25
Material: 100% Aluminum

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hi-Pe...Q5fAccessories
http://www.jegs.com/i/Russell/799/632190/10002/-1


and now you go and pay for this samething 1000$+ just becouse someone per cut some line and conected fitings and put a name on it....wow poeple..

if i can do it for 400$ imagine what they put it together for as they do not pay retail

so pick your poison

instalation time will be same on any after market kit ther is nothing you can realy do in 5min

There is no Fixing Stupid
You can for sure piece together you're own kit and probably save some money, some people don't have the 'know how', time, or the patience to do so. Others prefer the reassurance of buying everything from the same vendor because it's convenient among other things.

However, the subject of this thread has nothing to do with DIY projects or what's cheapest. I'm sure most people got your point after your first post, the fact of the matter is it's his money
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Dont forget the -10AN fittings. Straights are relatively cheap but angled fittings run about $25 a piece.

O and a pressure tester cost money. I've seen an aftermarket line fail on an FD, his engine rebuild cost much more than any savings on an ebay kit.

I wouldn't trust the e-bay coolers. A crap weld on one of those coolers could cost an engine. Stick to something used by professional race teams - Mocal, Setrab, Fluidyne.

Jack

As for the posters original question, any of the kits mentioned here would be fine. The OEM setup is by far the most simple to install (nothing beats OEM fit) and will do the job for a street car.
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Originally Posted by moosejaw
This should get interesting
Microwaving popcorn.........
The thread starter knows what he's looking for, so I'm not going to derail this thread with a DIY oil cooler discussion; there are other threads for that

Originally Posted by serbRX7
and now you go and pay for this samething 1000$+ just becouse someone per cut some line and conected fitings and put a name on it....wow poeple..

if i can do it for 400$ imagine what they put it together for as they do not pay retail

so pick your poison
Ignorance is bliss, as well as illiteracy
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Originally Posted by Scrub
The thread starter knows what he's looking for, so I'm not going to derail this thread with a DIY oil cooler discussion; there are other threads for that



Ignorance is bliss, as well as illiteracy

dude i wouldn point fingers...this is not my first language and i speak 5...i am not so good with spelling...as you can see....

so you are ignorant one...
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just tried give you an alternative that will work just as good

got money to burn....by all means any kit from top rx7 shops will work good and instal in same time frame...
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