Does the FD need a power steering cooler?
11-04-09, 02:10 AM
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Does the FD need a power steering cooler?
as the title states, i wanna know if the FD really needs a power steering cooler. or at least in my case anyway. i dont track my car i havent even taken it down the 1/4 mile yet, i hope to oneday take it to the "track" (its not even a real race track they just have sprints on the local go-kart track 
). reason for asking is i am currently setting up my vmount setup but i honestly didnt think the car needed a ps cooler, i have one made but its such a pita, would be much easier without it.
brad.
). reason for asking is i am currently setting up my vmount setup but i honestly didnt think the car needed a ps cooler, i have one made but its such a pita, would be much easier without it.brad.
11-04-09, 02:56 AM
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most track guys remove the PS altogether and either fully convert to a manual steering or (for us poor folk) line loop the steering rack.
I've never seen/heard of anyone installing a PS cooler on the FD.
I've never seen/heard of anyone installing a PS cooler on the FD.
11-04-09, 03:09 AM
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you know that steel line that looks like a Z shape between you ac condensor and undertray, thats the stock one. my vmount setup doesnt work with that, i have a new one made up but im just wondering if its really essential; as if i could get away without having one, i would.
11-05-09, 06:45 AM
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Yeah, PS really does make a big difference when it comes to tracking. My ex-240SX (junked it not too long ago) didn't have PS and driving it like on a track was a WONDER; I got used to the PS that I didn't mind not having it on a day-to-day basis. Having said that, I must admit that by the end of it I did wish I had PS back, just because of I drove it more than I raced it so...PS is definitely MUCH more convenient (in my opinion) when it comes to DD'ing.
Anyways, just my 2 cents!
Anyways, just my 2 cents!
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11-05-09, 08:36 AM
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Yes, feel is slightly better.
Its also more work for a slight improvement in feel. Run long or frequent enough events at the top of your class in a competitive environment on a hot day and it becomes more work than its worth.
That the opinion I share with a few people that actually track their cars regularly here in CA. You are entitled to your opinion.
btw - My car weighs ~2850 lbs with a full tank of gas. ~3000 with me in it. No idea where someone is pulling the 2500 lb number from.
Its also more work for a slight improvement in feel. Run long or frequent enough events at the top of your class in a competitive environment on a hot day and it becomes more work than its worth.
That the opinion I share with a few people that actually track their cars regularly here in CA. You are entitled to your opinion.
btw - My car weighs ~2850 lbs with a full tank of gas. ~3000 with me in it. No idea where someone is pulling the 2500 lb number from.
11-05-09, 04:19 PM
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Yes, feel is slightly better.
Its also more work for a slight improvement in feel. Run long or frequent enough events at the top of your class in a competitive environment on a hot day and it becomes more work than its worth.
That the opinion I share with a few people that actually track their cars regularly here in CA. You are entitled to your opinion.
btw - My car weighs ~2850 lbs with a full tank of gas. ~3000 with me in it. No idea where someone is pulling the 2500 lb number from.
Its also more work for a slight improvement in feel. Run long or frequent enough events at the top of your class in a competitive environment on a hot day and it becomes more work than its worth.
That the opinion I share with a few people that actually track their cars regularly here in CA. You are entitled to your opinion.
btw - My car weighs ~2850 lbs with a full tank of gas. ~3000 with me in it. No idea where someone is pulling the 2500 lb number from.
Also 2500lbs is VERY light, only a 100% track Rx7 would be that low....mines at 2740(with me in it) and thats:no A/C, stereo, P/S(manual rack), emissions, spare tire, ect ect....
11-05-09, 11:56 PM
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I had the same issue when V-mounting. I put a Small Cooler on the PASG side where oil cooler two will be located as well. The Mandrel bend / cooling line is there for a reason.
Remove it all together or add a remote cooler.
Remove it all together or add a remote cooler.
11-06-09, 12:25 AM
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i bought a oil/fluid cooler from summit for like 50bux. I looked but couldnt find it. it uses barg fitting and is straight in/out. works perfect as you can mount it and hang it right under the support bar where the lines pass.
Prob cools better than the stock lines
Prob cools better than the stock lines
11-06-09, 01:34 AM
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Yes, feel is slightly better.
Its also more work for a slight improvement in feel. Run long or frequent enough events at the top of your class in a competitive environment on a hot day and it becomes more work than its worth.
That the opinion I share with a few people that actually track their cars regularly here in CA. You are entitled to your opinion.
btw - My car weighs ~2850 lbs with a full tank of gas. ~3000 with me in it. No idea where someone is pulling the 2500 lb number from.
Its also more work for a slight improvement in feel. Run long or frequent enough events at the top of your class in a competitive environment on a hot day and it becomes more work than its worth.
That the opinion I share with a few people that actually track their cars regularly here in CA. You are entitled to your opinion.
btw - My car weighs ~2850 lbs with a full tank of gas. ~3000 with me in it. No idea where someone is pulling the 2500 lb number from.
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11-06-09, 10:46 PM
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Just take it off you'll be fine. I have two buddies who have V-mounts in their FD's and daily drive them and no problems with the power steering fluid overheating or anything.
11-08-09, 10:59 PM
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Steering lag eh. Not going to waste my time commenting on that. 
Just b/c it hasn't died yet doesn't mean there are no problems. Just means the potential problem hasn't caused a failure yet. Do you measure the temp of the PS fluid? If not, how do you know if its "overheating" or not? Do you think mazda would spend millions of dollars designing and installing a PS cooler if it wasn't proven necessary in their testing?
you guys can do whatever you want with your cars. As Mako said, its driver preference. I don't really care.
What bugs me when people give what in my opinion is incorrect "advice" based on unsubstantiated opinion rather than test results.
you guys can do whatever you want with your cars. As Mako said, its driver preference. I don't really care.
What bugs me when people give what in my opinion is incorrect "advice" based on unsubstantiated opinion rather than test results.
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