Couple Simplifed Sequential Q's
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Couple Simplifed Sequential Q's
I have a few questions:
-Why is the Charge Control and Relief solenoids teed together?
-The yellow line from the y-pipe goes through the UIM, then to the pressure chamber, right?
-How does the Pressure chamber fit in the ACV location? And what does the pressure chamber do, is it really necessary?
-Are resistors needed for the removed solenoids, ACV, AWS, etc connectors? Ifo so what kind?
I think thats it. Thanks!
-Why is the Charge Control and Relief solenoids teed together?
-The yellow line from the y-pipe goes through the UIM, then to the pressure chamber, right?
-How does the Pressure chamber fit in the ACV location? And what does the pressure chamber do, is it really necessary?
-Are resistors needed for the removed solenoids, ACV, AWS, etc connectors? Ifo so what kind?
I think thats it. Thanks!
Last edited by eyecandy; Apr 30, 2005 at 12:23 AM.
Originally Posted by eyecandy
I have a few questions:
-Why is the Charge Control and Relief solenoids teed together?
-Why is the Charge Control and Relief solenoids teed together?
Originally Posted by eyecandy
-The yellow line from the y-pipe goes through the UIM, then to the pressure chamber, right?
Originally Posted by eyecandy
-How does the Pressure chamber fit in the ACV location? And what does the pressure chamber do, is it really necessary?
Originally Posted by eyecandy
-Are resistors needed for the removed solenoids, ACV, AWS, etc connectors? Ifo so what kind?
Originally Posted by eyecandy
Thanks!
I forgot one other question
-I noticed the line for the FPR is missing, I thought that the FPR line is necessary for the FPR to funtion properly.
I forgot one other question
-I noticed the line for the FPR is missing, I thought that the FPR line is necessary for the FPR to funtion properly.
-Tim
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I have a PFC, so I guess the resistors are not needed. I will be doing it to my friends car as well, who is still using the stock ECU. How do you wire the resistors in? I read through threads that only the female connectors need them, but I may just do them all.
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Originally Posted by eyecandy
Thanks!
I forgot one other question
-I noticed the line for the FPR is missing, I thought that the FPR line is necessary for the FPR to funtion properly.
I forgot one other question
-I noticed the line for the FPR is missing, I thought that the FPR line is necessary for the FPR to funtion properly.
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Originally Posted by JONSKI
Yes, you need the FPR, but the FPR Solenoid can be eliminated by connecting the FPR directly to the diagonal nipple at the base of the LIM.
FPR solenoid is used for "Hot starting" I personally kept it. Someone will probably not like this, but you don't need the resistors even on the stock ECU. I didn't use any and got no error codes and car ran fine and boosted fine.
Originally Posted by quicksilver_rx7
Someone will probably not like this, but you don't need the resistors even on the stock ECU. I didn't use any and got no error codes and car ran fine and boosted fine.
Originally Posted by Mahjik
Did you actually check the codes or just not see the CEL? Not all codes trigger a CEL, some of them are just stored.
Originally Posted by quicksilver_rx7
Check engine light comes on when there's a problem that affects operation, right?
Originally Posted by eyecandy
SO how are they connected then?
If you still do not understand, I can take a pic.
-Tim
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFED
I would not recommend skipping on the resistors
One resistor is required per connector and you just loop it, right?
Originally Posted by JONSKI
Not really. CEL comes on for a number of "trivial" reasons as well, such as ACV not working or if the electronic feedback EGR fails on a Cali '93 or all '94's.
Originally Posted by quicksilver_rx7
I'm not sure that you are entirely accurate. No resistors were used. All emissions crap was removed and I got no check engine light at all. Car ran smoothly and boosted perfect. The reason it was suggested to use resistors was only to prevent an error code. However, that was not the case with my car. I'm not trying to deter anyone from using the resistors, if that's where they feel comfortable. I just don't see the point in wasting the effort and the money.
While removing some of the emissions components shouldn't throw the ECU into limp mode, there are other things (and not throw a CEL) if you aren't careful.
Plus, it will be a pain in the butt to troubleshoot a problem later when you have to dig through 4-5 engine codes to get to the one cause you a problem.
Originally Posted by Mahjik
A "CEL" and an "Error Code" can be two different things. CEL = Check Engine Light, a code can just be stored but not necessarily trigger the CEL.
While removing some of the emissions components shouldn't throw the ECU into limp mode, there are other things (and not throw a CEL) if you aren't careful.
Plus, it will be a pain in the butt to troubleshoot a problem later when you have to dig through 4-5 engine codes to get to the one cause you a problem.
While removing some of the emissions components shouldn't throw the ECU into limp mode, there are other things (and not throw a CEL) if you aren't careful.
Plus, it will be a pain in the butt to troubleshoot a problem later when you have to dig through 4-5 engine codes to get to the one cause you a problem.

I should also note that I drove the car for about a month before upgrading to a PFC. PFC = Power FC
Just my experience.
If you're gonna stay stock, go for the resistors......
Who would wanna stay stock?
Last edited by quicksilver_rx7; May 1, 2005 at 10:29 PM.
Originally Posted by quicksilver_rx7
Thanks for breaking down the "CEL".
I should also note that I drove the car for about a month before upgrading to a PFC. PFC = Power FC
Just my experience.
I should also note that I drove the car for about a month before upgrading to a PFC. PFC = Power FC
Just my experience.
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