Concept 7 Flush head lights
11-27-13, 02:19 AM
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Concept 7 Flush head lights
In the market for some new style head lights. Has anyone ever ordered from these guys. Or anyone with pics?
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Lighting - Concept-7
11-27-13, 01:59 PM
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Not sure if you been to Sakebombs website lately, but their HID pop up headlights are 975, and there lower end version is 675. From a currency converter I got 882 for the lights from concept-7. Also as someone has said they seem to have good feedback from the UK forums. I guess it comes down to if you want slick or popup. And why does it have to be a knock off? I made my own custom HID retrofit popup lights using retrofit source for parts, so would that make me a knock off of Sakebomb? Not attacking your comment, just stating facts and prices, and my opinion on knock offs. Hope everyone has a good Thanksgiving!
11-27-13, 02:32 PM
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I'm a Sakebomb Garage guy..... not a fan of the looks (or light output) of just about any of the sleek light kits.
Function>Form, especially when it comes to your ability to see at night
Function>Form, especially when it comes to your ability to see at night
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11-28-13, 12:32 AM
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11-28-13, 03:13 AM
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.I've seen them at UK meets and they're nice bits of kit, the fit is perfect (Better than re-a).
That being said...I'm a popup fan and have a set of Sakebomb HIDs on my own car
.Only issue I've got is HID lights are now illegal in the UK unless you fit an auto levelling system
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I still think they are decent enough, they look really nice, I would prefer them over the stock ones, but if your going for good light output I would stick with the popup HID's.
11-29-13, 09:40 AM
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Another +1 for the Sakebomb Garage kit. It was one of the last purchases I made during my rebuild. I had a hard time justifying the cost of the headlights (I had to get motors, covers + get them painted and the lights). It has been by far one of the best upgrades that I've done so far. 100% upside and 0 regrets.
11-29-13, 12:14 PM
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I couldn't agree more. I don't even drive my FD at night because the lights are so bad.
I think he meant the way the pop-ups position the actual lights, though. With most sleek kits (including RE-A), nearly half the light output is blocked by the housing of the light, since they're sunken into the front end of the car.
Nothing touches SBG type set ups for good lighting. Well, maybe a KC light bar on the roof. lol
I think he meant the way the pop-ups position the actual lights, though. With most sleek kits (including RE-A), nearly half the light output is blocked by the housing of the light, since they're sunken into the front end of the car.
Nothing touches SBG type set ups for good lighting.
Well, maybe a KC light bar on the roof. lol
11-30-13, 12:08 PM
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Come on they make LED light bars these days, but if you want to keep it accurate to the FD's time period a KC light bar will do the trick. Looking forward to the outcome
I'd love to have an active style headlight for the RX-7. The new Mazda 3's HID turn slightly as you turn the wheel. Not sure if they have auto leveling though. IMO sleek lights kill the styling of the car, they just never look like they're meant to be there and the light output (while better than stock) isn't fantastic. The R-magic lights were about the only semi sleek light I would have ever considered, but they were very expensive and the light output was mediocre as to be expected when the headlight/projector is recessed back into the housing.
-Dan
12-01-13, 01:26 PM
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hi guys,
concept 7 are just in the process of becoming a vendor so i have contacted them and this is what they have to say.
The Concept-7 sleek light kit :-
Let me start by telling you a bit about our kit,
Firstly this is a bespoke kit that has undertaken its own development. To call it a ‘knock off’ suggests it’s simply a copy of someone else’s work, there has been influences from existing products but that’s it. I have looked at virtually all the kits in the market place noting their inherent faults and drawbacks and hopefully overcome them. A good starting point i thought would be to find light unit/s which give a legal beam pattern for most if not all countries ! Of all the kits i bought and tried (many), not only could i not find some that were not dangerous or an improvement but any that were legal to meet EU and DOT (American legal requirements) Next i thought a twin (per side) set up rather than a dual/bi single unit not only looked better but two units, each with their own specific lens design (for dip and main) works far more effective than a combined set-up. So the Hella 90mm units came out on top for me with their availability, price and the technical expertise behind Hella as one of the largest lighting design/manufacturers for decades. One other plus for the Hella units from my point of view is they are available for left or right hand drive.
I wanted to have the light units attached to the car and not the pod bases this allows for stable, accurate and easy adjustment that rarely ever needs altering and allows for easy and quick removal of the pod bases creating access to below whenever needed.
Eventually we came up with a bracket design to house the units in the space provided, now many things have been considered in the design of this bracket – For one, some cutting of the frame is necessary to house the light units, the result of this would be to leave a weakened top panel, as a result we have made a bracket so that it still maintains the structural integrity of this panel. Second as with some other kits a lot of the beam pattern is obstructed and lost, we have utilized every mm of height available to set the units up at their maximum, so virtually no beam is cut off or obstructed ! Not only that but the outer units (main) sit 5mm higher than the inside dip unit this serves to not only improve the looks but takes into account the natural curve of the front bumper again allowing maximum exposure of the beam.
Due to the height of the light units it meant we could not use a flat lens/cover as this did not give us the space needed so we stayed with the curved design which i feel flows better with the curves of the car anyway. This limited space did prove a bit of a problem sorting a pod/base design that would fit in the gap however we have managed it.
We have included plug and play wiring loom extensions in the kit that extends the stock configuration i.e. on full beam only the main units illuminate and vice versa for dip. For quad illumination on full beam some wiring changes will need to be made.
All hardware in the kit is either aluminium or SS so not rusting issues over time and the kit comes with full colour (inc pictures) of how to install.
One other point to add the kit is supplied as standard with halogen bulbs although this does provide almost three times the illumination over the stock set up the light units do lend themselves to HID upgrading. On a quad system with HID upgrade the output is amazing !
just to note that HID kits are legal in the UK providing it didn't have a auto leveling system originally fitted
concept 7 are just in the process of becoming a vendor so i have contacted them and this is what they have to say.
The Concept-7 sleek light kit :-
Let me start by telling you a bit about our kit,
Firstly this is a bespoke kit that has undertaken its own development. To call it a ‘knock off’ suggests it’s simply a copy of someone else’s work, there has been influences from existing products but that’s it. I have looked at virtually all the kits in the market place noting their inherent faults and drawbacks and hopefully overcome them. A good starting point i thought would be to find light unit/s which give a legal beam pattern for most if not all countries ! Of all the kits i bought and tried (many), not only could i not find some that were not dangerous or an improvement but any that were legal to meet EU and DOT (American legal requirements) Next i thought a twin (per side) set up rather than a dual/bi single unit not only looked better but two units, each with their own specific lens design (for dip and main) works far more effective than a combined set-up. So the Hella 90mm units came out on top for me with their availability, price and the technical expertise behind Hella as one of the largest lighting design/manufacturers for decades. One other plus for the Hella units from my point of view is they are available for left or right hand drive.
I wanted to have the light units attached to the car and not the pod bases this allows for stable, accurate and easy adjustment that rarely ever needs altering and allows for easy and quick removal of the pod bases creating access to below whenever needed.
Eventually we came up with a bracket design to house the units in the space provided, now many things have been considered in the design of this bracket – For one, some cutting of the frame is necessary to house the light units, the result of this would be to leave a weakened top panel, as a result we have made a bracket so that it still maintains the structural integrity of this panel. Second as with some other kits a lot of the beam pattern is obstructed and lost, we have utilized every mm of height available to set the units up at their maximum, so virtually no beam is cut off or obstructed ! Not only that but the outer units (main) sit 5mm higher than the inside dip unit this serves to not only improve the looks but takes into account the natural curve of the front bumper again allowing maximum exposure of the beam.
Due to the height of the light units it meant we could not use a flat lens/cover as this did not give us the space needed so we stayed with the curved design which i feel flows better with the curves of the car anyway. This limited space did prove a bit of a problem sorting a pod/base design that would fit in the gap however we have managed it.
We have included plug and play wiring loom extensions in the kit that extends the stock configuration i.e. on full beam only the main units illuminate and vice versa for dip. For quad illumination on full beam some wiring changes will need to be made.
All hardware in the kit is either aluminium or SS so not rusting issues over time and the kit comes with full colour (inc pictures) of how to install.
One other point to add the kit is supplied as standard with halogen bulbs although this does provide almost three times the illumination over the stock set up the light units do lend themselves to HID upgrading. On a quad system with HID upgrade the output is amazing !
just to note that HID kits are legal in the UK providing it didn't have a auto leveling system originally fitted
