choosing RX7 over others?
09-04-01, 12:14 PM
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I would go with the 7 or supra. Now that will come down to preference, do you want a 2 seater or 4. Which cars looks do you like better and are you going to use it as a daily driver. If you want realibility I would go with the supra, but I like the look of the 7 better. They are both great cars for tuning. i dont comment on the ZX because I dont like them.
09-04-01, 03:06 PM
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I had a 300zx for a while. It's what I traded in on my RX-7. It was a great car, I just got tired of it.
It's been a while since I've been in a Supra, but the RX-7 handled better than the 300zx for sure and also the Supra from what I remember of the car....
RX-7 can be quite expensive when to comes to getting something fixed or replaced if you aren't a mechanic yourself. Even most Mazda dealers don't have mechanics that know how to work on them....
If you don't have a lot of money to spend then I would suggest the 300zx. Low maintaince and good performance, but get a 2 seat version. I hate 4 seat *cough* sports *cough* cars *cough*...
The RX-7 (FD) is sweet though... Most people have never seen one (except for watching The Fast and the Furious) so they will be checking you out every where you drive.
It's been a while since I've been in a Supra, but the RX-7 handled better than the 300zx for sure and also the Supra from what I remember of the car....
RX-7 can be quite expensive when to comes to getting something fixed or replaced if you aren't a mechanic yourself. Even most Mazda dealers don't have mechanics that know how to work on them....
If you don't have a lot of money to spend then I would suggest the 300zx. Low maintaince and good performance, but get a 2 seat version. I hate 4 seat *cough* sports *cough* cars *cough*...
The RX-7 (FD) is sweet though... Most people have never seen one (except for watching The Fast and the Furious) so they will be checking you out every where you drive.
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I'm also interested in your opinions on this one. I've owned 2 na 300zx's, a 90 and 92. Now I'm looking for a Twinturbo and I'm having a hard time deciding between the ZTT or FD. Both in my opinion are great cars and it will be my second car, no daily driving for my TT. Most of the Z guys don't like the FD's due to the engine problems that are widely talked about. Look forward to seeing more opinions.
09-04-01, 03:59 PM
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I own both a Supra Turbo and an RX-7 TT (or what was formerly an RX-7 TT, to be precise) and knowing what I know now, I would probably have bought the Supra instead of the RX-7. The RX-7 came first and it wasn't until I'd had several "problems" with it that I ended up with a Supra also, which is now my daily driver.
The RX-7 was probably a bit faster (fully modified, non-sequential, with every toy you can buy) but obviously less reliable. Less space. Worse gas mileage. More costly to modify. More costly to maintain. But definitely more fun to drive, at least if memory serves. I've never had them both running at the same time, so I can't give a back to back comparison, and my RX-7 isn't really an RX-7 any more, so it wouldn't be fair anyway.
If you want something you can drive like it was stolen, day after day, and not have to worry (as much) about it, the Supra is the car for you. It may be larger, but handles every bit as well as the RX-7. It will suffer by comparison in an arbitrary environment (like auto-crossing) where a tight turn radius course favors a lighter car, even with less power, but it's every bit as much car at the drag strip (and probably more) or on a road course, with a good driver. Upgrades are cheaper and horsepower is almost free to an certain extent. 400 RWHP can cost as little as $1,000 on top of the purchase price. $1,000 will get you a computer to help keep your RX-7 in fuel, and that's about it.
As far as a daily driver, there's no comparison. The Supra hauls more, plain and simple. I carried over 500 lbs. of RX-7 bushing components (shown below) in several boxes in my Supra and it rode fine. I even spanked an MR2 Turbo while doing it.
You couldn't fit half that amount in an RX-7, and it wouldn't perform if you could.
My RX-7 coughed out two engines at 15 psi, which I was told (at the time) that "everyone" ran on the street. Now I know that only people who want to cough out engines run 15 psi on the street (or use race gas) and most stick to 12-13 psi. My Supra runs 22-23 psi on a daily basis, on pump gas, without a hiccup. I just hit 1.45 Bar at lunch today heading home on the freeway, for example. Stock twins, stock fuel, stock intercooler, a downpipe, a cat-back, and a piece of vacuum hose. About $1,100 in mods.
Sure, you can tune an RX-7, but there are no guarantees that you won't get a bad tank of gas, or any number of things, many of which can lead to popping an engine. There's no guarantee you'll have any problems with an RX-7, but let's just say that there are far more Supras making it to 100k+ miles on the stock motor than there are RX-7s.
Still, I like my RX-7 better, but the Supra and the 300ZX are probably much better candidates if you have any extra people you'll need to haul (Supra can do 4 in a pinch, for example), any cargo of any size (I carried an engine hoist home from Schucks in the Supra), and you can get better gas mileage, if that matters to you. AND, studies prove conclusively that the more car you wrap yourself in, the better your chances for survival in the event of a wreck. In a good wreck, you'll be glad the Supra has 600-700 more lbs. of weight and a much longer hood, believe me. Obviously weight doesn't necessarily mean you'll survive, but try smashing an Explorer into an RX-7 and see which comes out the winner. There are times when heavy *is* good.
Of course the only car for you is the one you like the most. I'd recommend driving as many of the potential cars as possible. You may find that the Supra is too large and the RX-7 is a better fit if you're not a large individual. On the opposite side, if you're 6'0" or taller, you'll find that the Supra fits better, even if the interior does seem huge in comparison to the RX-7 (because it is, actually). Try 'em out, buy the one you like, and although you can get advice from people who own each car you're considering, they can't make the decision for you (and you shouldn't allow them to) because you're the one who has to live with it.
Hope that helps.
The RX-7 was probably a bit faster (fully modified, non-sequential, with every toy you can buy) but obviously less reliable. Less space. Worse gas mileage. More costly to modify. More costly to maintain. But definitely more fun to drive, at least if memory serves. I've never had them both running at the same time, so I can't give a back to back comparison, and my RX-7 isn't really an RX-7 any more, so it wouldn't be fair anyway.
If you want something you can drive like it was stolen, day after day, and not have to worry (as much) about it, the Supra is the car for you. It may be larger, but handles every bit as well as the RX-7. It will suffer by comparison in an arbitrary environment (like auto-crossing) where a tight turn radius course favors a lighter car, even with less power, but it's every bit as much car at the drag strip (and probably more) or on a road course, with a good driver. Upgrades are cheaper and horsepower is almost free to an certain extent. 400 RWHP can cost as little as $1,000 on top of the purchase price. $1,000 will get you a computer to help keep your RX-7 in fuel, and that's about it.
As far as a daily driver, there's no comparison. The Supra hauls more, plain and simple. I carried over 500 lbs. of RX-7 bushing components (shown below) in several boxes in my Supra and it rode fine. I even spanked an MR2 Turbo while doing it.
You couldn't fit half that amount in an RX-7, and it wouldn't perform if you could.
My RX-7 coughed out two engines at 15 psi, which I was told (at the time) that "everyone" ran on the street. Now I know that only people who want to cough out engines run 15 psi on the street (or use race gas) and most stick to 12-13 psi. My Supra runs 22-23 psi on a daily basis, on pump gas, without a hiccup. I just hit 1.45 Bar at lunch today heading home on the freeway, for example. Stock twins, stock fuel, stock intercooler, a downpipe, a cat-back, and a piece of vacuum hose. About $1,100 in mods.
Sure, you can tune an RX-7, but there are no guarantees that you won't get a bad tank of gas, or any number of things, many of which can lead to popping an engine. There's no guarantee you'll have any problems with an RX-7, but let's just say that there are far more Supras making it to 100k+ miles on the stock motor than there are RX-7s.
Still, I like my RX-7 better, but the Supra and the 300ZX are probably much better candidates if you have any extra people you'll need to haul (Supra can do 4 in a pinch, for example), any cargo of any size (I carried an engine hoist home from Schucks in the Supra), and you can get better gas mileage, if that matters to you. AND, studies prove conclusively that the more car you wrap yourself in, the better your chances for survival in the event of a wreck. In a good wreck, you'll be glad the Supra has 600-700 more lbs. of weight and a much longer hood, believe me. Obviously weight doesn't necessarily mean you'll survive, but try smashing an Explorer into an RX-7 and see which comes out the winner. There are times when heavy *is* good.
Of course the only car for you is the one you like the most. I'd recommend driving as many of the potential cars as possible. You may find that the Supra is too large and the RX-7 is a better fit if you're not a large individual. On the opposite side, if you're 6'0" or taller, you'll find that the Supra fits better, even if the interior does seem huge in comparison to the RX-7 (because it is, actually). Try 'em out, buy the one you like, and although you can get advice from people who own each car you're considering, they can't make the decision for you (and you shouldn't allow them to) because you're the one who has to live with it.
Hope that helps.
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Originally posted by jimlab
I own both a Supra Turbo and an RX-7 TT (or what was formerly an RX-7 TT, to be precise) and knowing what I know now, I would probably have bought the Supra instead of the RX-7. The RX-7 came first and it wasn't until I'd had several "problems" with it that I ended up with a Supra also, which is now my daily driver.
The RX-7 was probably a bit faster (fully modified, non-sequential, with every toy you can buy) but obviously less reliable. Less space. Worse gas mileage. More costly to modify. More costly to maintain. But definitely more fun to drive, at least if memory serves. I've never had them both running at the same time, so I can't give a back to back comparison, and my RX-7 isn't really an RX-7 any more, so it wouldn't be fair anyway.
If you want something you can drive like it was stolen, day after day, and not have to worry (as much) about it, the Supra is the car for you. It may be larger, but handles every bit as well as the RX-7. It will suffer by comparison in an arbitrary environment (like auto-crossing) where a tight turn radius course favors a lighter car, even with less power, but it's every bit as much car at the drag strip (and probably more) or on a road course, with a good driver. Upgrades are cheaper and horsepower is almost free to an certain extent. 400 RWHP can cost as little as $1,000 on top of the purchase price. $1,000 will get you a computer to help keep your RX-7 in fuel, and that's about it.
As far as a daily driver, there's no comparison. The Supra hauls more, plain and simple. I carried over 500 lbs. of RX-7 bushing components (shown below) in several boxes in my Supra and it rode fine. I even spanked an MR2 Turbo while doing it.
You couldn't fit half that amount in an RX-7, and it wouldn't perform if you could.
My RX-7 coughed out two engines at 15 psi, which I was told (at the time) that "everyone" ran on the street. Now I know that only people who want to cough out engines run 15 psi on the street (or use race gas) and most stick to 12-13 psi. My Supra runs 22-23 psi on a daily basis, on pump gas, without a hiccup. I just hit 1.45 Bar at lunch today heading home on the freeway, for example. Stock twins, stock fuel, stock intercooler, a downpipe, a cat-back, and a piece of vacuum hose. About $1,100 in mods.
Sure, you can tune an RX-7, but there are no guarantees that you won't get a bad tank of gas, or any number of things, many of which can lead to popping an engine. There's no guarantee you'll have any problems with an RX-7, but let's just say that there are far more Supras making it to 100k+ miles on the stock motor than there are RX-7s.
Still, I like my RX-7 better, but the Supra and the 300ZX are probably much better candidates if you have any extra people you'll need to haul (Supra can do 4 in a pinch, for example), any cargo of any size (I carried an engine hoist home from Schucks in the Supra), and you can get better gas mileage, if that matters to you. AND, studies prove conclusively that the more car you wrap yourself in, the better your chances for survival in the event of a wreck. In a good wreck, you'll be glad the Supra has 600-700 more lbs. of weight and a much longer hood, believe me. Obviously weight doesn't necessarily mean you'll survive, but try smashing an Explorer into an RX-7 and see which comes out the winner. There are times when heavy *is* good.
Of course the only car for you is the one you like the most. I'd recommend driving as many of the potential cars as possible. You may find that the Supra is too large and the RX-7 is a better fit if you're not a large individual. On the opposite side, if you're 6'0" or taller, you'll find that the Supra fits better, even if the interior does seem huge in comparison to the RX-7 (because it is, actually). Try 'em out, buy the one you like, and although you can get advice from people who own each car you're considering, they can't make the decision for you (and you shouldn't allow them to) because you're the one who has to live with it.
Hope that helps.
I own both a Supra Turbo and an RX-7 TT (or what was formerly an RX-7 TT, to be precise) and knowing what I know now, I would probably have bought the Supra instead of the RX-7. The RX-7 came first and it wasn't until I'd had several "problems" with it that I ended up with a Supra also, which is now my daily driver.
The RX-7 was probably a bit faster (fully modified, non-sequential, with every toy you can buy) but obviously less reliable. Less space. Worse gas mileage. More costly to modify. More costly to maintain. But definitely more fun to drive, at least if memory serves. I've never had them both running at the same time, so I can't give a back to back comparison, and my RX-7 isn't really an RX-7 any more, so it wouldn't be fair anyway.
If you want something you can drive like it was stolen, day after day, and not have to worry (as much) about it, the Supra is the car for you. It may be larger, but handles every bit as well as the RX-7. It will suffer by comparison in an arbitrary environment (like auto-crossing) where a tight turn radius course favors a lighter car, even with less power, but it's every bit as much car at the drag strip (and probably more) or on a road course, with a good driver. Upgrades are cheaper and horsepower is almost free to an certain extent. 400 RWHP can cost as little as $1,000 on top of the purchase price. $1,000 will get you a computer to help keep your RX-7 in fuel, and that's about it.
As far as a daily driver, there's no comparison. The Supra hauls more, plain and simple. I carried over 500 lbs. of RX-7 bushing components (shown below) in several boxes in my Supra and it rode fine. I even spanked an MR2 Turbo while doing it.
You couldn't fit half that amount in an RX-7, and it wouldn't perform if you could.
My RX-7 coughed out two engines at 15 psi, which I was told (at the time) that "everyone" ran on the street. Now I know that only people who want to cough out engines run 15 psi on the street (or use race gas) and most stick to 12-13 psi. My Supra runs 22-23 psi on a daily basis, on pump gas, without a hiccup. I just hit 1.45 Bar at lunch today heading home on the freeway, for example. Stock twins, stock fuel, stock intercooler, a downpipe, a cat-back, and a piece of vacuum hose. About $1,100 in mods.
Sure, you can tune an RX-7, but there are no guarantees that you won't get a bad tank of gas, or any number of things, many of which can lead to popping an engine. There's no guarantee you'll have any problems with an RX-7, but let's just say that there are far more Supras making it to 100k+ miles on the stock motor than there are RX-7s.
Still, I like my RX-7 better, but the Supra and the 300ZX are probably much better candidates if you have any extra people you'll need to haul (Supra can do 4 in a pinch, for example), any cargo of any size (I carried an engine hoist home from Schucks in the Supra), and you can get better gas mileage, if that matters to you. AND, studies prove conclusively that the more car you wrap yourself in, the better your chances for survival in the event of a wreck. In a good wreck, you'll be glad the Supra has 600-700 more lbs. of weight and a much longer hood, believe me. Obviously weight doesn't necessarily mean you'll survive, but try smashing an Explorer into an RX-7 and see which comes out the winner. There are times when heavy *is* good.
Of course the only car for you is the one you like the most. I'd recommend driving as many of the potential cars as possible. You may find that the Supra is too large and the RX-7 is a better fit if you're not a large individual. On the opposite side, if you're 6'0" or taller, you'll find that the Supra fits better, even if the interior does seem huge in comparison to the RX-7 (because it is, actually). Try 'em out, buy the one you like, and although you can get advice from people who own each car you're considering, they can't make the decision for you (and you shouldn't allow them to) because you're the one who has to live with it.
Hope that helps.
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Originally posted by Dusky
what is the FD?
also, this would not be my daily driver, just a fun car for special occasions and trips.
what is the FD?
also, this would not be my daily driver, just a fun car for special occasions and trips.
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Originally posted by J300z28
an FD is a 3rd generation(93-95) RX7. FD starts the vin# I believe.
an FD is a 3rd generation(93-95) RX7. FD starts the vin# I believe.
"FC" is short for the 3nd gen chasis code from Mazda ... FC3S
So does that mean "FB" is 1st gen? Nope! SA22C.
In Japan, cars aren't often refered to by the year, manufacturer, model. Instead, the car is succinctly refered to by the body/chasis code ... JZA80 = Supra, RPS13 = 180SX, AE86 = Levin/Trueno, yada yada. Some cars over there share common internals and have slightly different skins, but are refered to as the same chasis. If you went shopping for car parts in Japan, you'd much more commonly find the chasis code rather than the year/man/model. I have to type this out about once a month.
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Originally posted by DK
"FD" is short for the 3rd gen chasis code from Mazda ... FD3S
"FC" is short for the 3nd gen chasis code from Mazda ... FC3S
So does that mean "FB" is 1st gen? Nope! SA22C.
"FD" is short for the 3rd gen chasis code from Mazda ... FD3S
"FC" is short for the 3nd gen chasis code from Mazda ... FC3S
So does that mean "FB" is 1st gen? Nope! SA22C.
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Originally posted by stinkfist
Actually, SA22C only refers to 78-80 models of the first gen when mazda changed their VIN system in acordance with US standards. Mazda then used FB for 81-85 .
Actually, SA22C only refers to 78-80 models of the first gen when mazda changed their VIN system in acordance with US standards. Mazda then used FB for 81-85 .
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only 2 cars i really was ever considering out of the typical japanese sports cars was the supra tt and rx7. i honestly think the rx7 looks better, although supras look so good too. but i wanted a supra because of the ability to be cheaply modded and the bullet-proof, worry free engine. but i can't afford it so i'm looking into the rx7. a lot of people i've talked to tell me the fd isn't as bad as you tend to hear. as long as you buy a car that wasn't abused and maintained correctly, it will last you a long time. from what i've gather the fd engine is strong too, but only if you take good care of it. vr4 is nice but too heavy, 300z looks old and outdated, although it's still a nice car, but the styling never did much for me. if you can afford the insane prices supras are going for now, you might wanna consider an m3 too. they are great cars, and i would get one in a heartbeat is i could afford it and it was a turbo (i love boost).
09-06-01, 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by neo_omega
stop tease us with the bushing
stop tease us with the bushing
And edit your posts... I don't think anyone needed to see my post twice, even as good as it was.
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