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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Im running with no air pump or cat,emissions are 6. should be 3.5 or less,any one tryed cataclean to see if it works ,im gonna fit a cat for the mot.just wondering if cataclean does work save putting cat back on
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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It's not going to work without a catalytic converter in place.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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Well car went for m.o.t test again,As after four weeks i finally got my zeal suspension bushes delivered,Any way,emissions were 6.265% wich is a fail, So back on the tester ,Emissions were in the 6 again,so in goes a bottle of cataclean n well emissions drop to 2.2 and rise slowly to 3.401 so it passed, So if your engine is running right as mine is this proves cataclean does bring your emissions down for the uk mot test, I have no air pump or cat so this is great,
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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What does 'emissions were 6.265%' mean? What is being measured? What are the units?
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Co levels, in the uk they have to be less than 3.500%, My car was 6.265% running with no cat or air pump,to bring down co levels without a cat or air pump fitted would be impossible on a rx, But what ever is in cataclean works, It will only work for the time its in the fuel,But it passed the test,so i dont have to fit a cat once a year for the mot emissions test.Outher option is to run bio ethanal for the mot test or in the states smog test,that way your emissions will be very low
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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3.5%? The limits in the US are significantly lower. Here is a recent California test showing maximum limits of 0.5%.

I would guess that no amount of special sauce will get an FD past emissions without a cat in the US.


Test________CO2%__O2%______HC(PPM)________CO%_____ ____NO(PPM)______
______RPM_MEAS__MEAS__MAX_AVE_MEAS__MAX__AVE__MEAS _MAX__AVE__MEAS
15mph_1768_14.30__0.80_|_88__21___22__|_0.52__0.06__0.01_|_704__150__167
25mph_2922_14.40__0.50_|_53__13____6__|_0.50__0.05__0.24_|_738__136___87
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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3.5%? The limits in the US are significantly lower. Here is a recent California test showing maximum limits of 0.5%.

I would guess that no amount of special sauce will get an FD past emissions without a cat in the US.


Test________CO2%__O2%______HC(PPM)________CO%_____ ____NO(PPM)______
______RPM_MEAS__MEAS__MAX_AVE_MEAS__MAX__AVE__MEAS _MAX__AVE__MEAS
15mph_1768_14.30__0.80_|_88__21___22__|_0.52__0.06__0.01_|_704__150__167
25mph_2922_14.40__0.50_|_53__13____6__|_0.50__0.05__0.24_|_738__136___87
That is low, glad im in the uk
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Is your car an early '92? Later '92+ numbers seem to be a lot stricter:

* First used before 1/8/1975 - Visual test only. Failure for excess idle speed, dense blue or black smoke for 5 seconds at idle or during acceleration up to 2500rpm or half engine max speed whichever lowest.
* First used between 1/8/75 and 31/7/86 - meter test CO <=4.5%, HC<=1200ppm.
* First used between 1/8/86 and 31/7/92 - meter test CO<=3.5%, HC<=1200ppm.
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First used between 1/8/92 and 31/7/94 - advanced emission test (CAT) if its running on petrol when presented, to the vehicle specific limits usually around CO<=0.3%, HC<=200ppm and Lambda 0.97 - 1.03. Remember from 1st August 2001 a basic emission test will be carried out initially.
(From: http://www.bobmckay.co.uk/p_emissions.html)
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Dember 1992 type r, n0 3005 made
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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It looks like the cutoff is not an exact date:

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=544595

In any case, this information may help those in the UK. In the US, a functioning cat is necessary - and even some of those fail.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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in ireland they dont test the fd for emissions because they dont know or care what it kicks out suits me ill be runnning a straight though system with no air pump soon
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