cant make up my mind about pulling/rebuilding my motor myself
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cant make up my mind about pulling/rebuilding my motor myself
ok, well. its winter now (here atleast) and the car has taken its rightful spot in the garage. i feel like weve been through a lot together and I enjoy that extra gratification I get from doing the work myself or atleast with friends. Money really isnt an issue, i just inherited a decent sized house, cars, the estate and of course some $. I am just somewhat intimidated by the job of rebuilding the motor by myself. I am totally in to learn how to do it im just worried about the what if factor. as of now all I need to do is unbolt the trans (im pulling the trans with motor) and double check to make sure every vac line/electrical plug is disconnected. its kind of difficult to get a good view behind the firewall. whats a few things back there I may have missed? I dont want to rip anything off.
really could use some advice. I just dont want to make a mistake here. thanks rx7club, ill try to post pictures but my digi is broken so... well see. NIGHT
really could use some advice. I just dont want to make a mistake here. thanks rx7club, ill try to post pictures but my digi is broken so... well see. NIGHT
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This seems like a repeat of your other thread where you couldn't make up your mind whether to do it yourself. Get these vids (removing and rebuilding) and decide. http://rotaryaviation.com/Books_videos.htm
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I offer great priced rebuilt shortblocks and then you could keep your engine and rebuild it on your own in your own time. Take the time to read and learn.
If the fuel lines are original just remove them with Pliers and dont worry about damaging them, replace them when putting the engine back in. Make sure the harness is thru the firwall all the way, make sure all the connectors on the Engine Harness(harness that goes to alt, battery, ac, etc) are loose, remove gear shifter from trans, and pull the engine.
Feel free to call me if you have any questions.
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If the fuel lines are original just remove them with Pliers and dont worry about damaging them, replace them when putting the engine back in. Make sure the harness is thru the firwall all the way, make sure all the connectors on the Engine Harness(harness that goes to alt, battery, ac, etc) are loose, remove gear shifter from trans, and pull the engine.
Feel free to call me if you have any questions.
David
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ok sweet. thanks a bunch man. the funds are all locked up right at this moment and the estate is actually paying for all the bills and stuff. the family is just trying to get everything transferred and finalized. so as far as actually picking up a shortblock im not sure when I can, ill talk it over with my friend and see what he thinks. but it seems to be the smartest thing to do.
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For a little more than it costs to buy a shortblock shipped to you, we can remove, rebuild and install the engine. Buying a prebuilt shortblock does not get your engine out or back in again, which seems to be where all your questions are coming from.
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thanks Chris- im sending you a message now
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Pulling the engine is the easy part, stripping it down to the short block, reassembling the long block after the rebuild, then reinstalling everything and having it run correctly is where the skill comes in to play. .
We have had many many FDs trailered to us with everything in boxes, because the owner could not figure out where all the parts went.
We have had many many FDs trailered to us with everything in boxes, because the owner could not figure out where all the parts went.
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haha, right. im just kind of waiting for the estate and everything to get unfrozen and transferred all around. ill need to bring my car down there at some point anyways and have a pfc put in and tuned, thatll give me the chance to have somene who knows exactly what they are doing to make sure everythings been done correctly to ensure my motor will be as healthy and strong as it can be.
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i would go with djsevens idea, buy a short block off of him, if you removed the motor you can put it back in, so basically you buy a short block transfer a few things from old motor to new, then put new back into car, that way car runs and you can drive it if you want to, and since i think (not positive) that djseven doesnt need a core you can take your old shortblock apart and learn all the internals and how everything works, so if you ever come across the same problem you know how to rebuild the whole thing yourself. You cant put a price on the knowledge. I bought a rotary just to take it apart, dont think it will ever go together again because the rotor looks really cool sitting on my desk lol but now i know how everything works.
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"knowledge has no price" has been more or less the reason im debating. I've seen Chris' work first hand and hes a lot closer. im still open to idea tho.
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I went through this decision process a few months ago.
The questions you need to ask yourself are:
1) Do you enjoy working on this car as much as you enjoy driving it, or is fixing it almost an obstacle to enjoyment of the vehicle?
2) How organized are you? Can you remove every single piece, put it in a bag, and label it? It does make the disassembly process take twice as long but it helps immensely. I also thread or ziptie the original bolts into their respective locations whenever possible. Sometimes you will have to draw diagrams of how the parts were installed originally. You will also need to carefully maintain a spreadsheet with part numbers of every single gasket, o-ring, crush waster, etc you will need. I have a spreadsheet with at least 20 OEM part numbers (actually, Mazdatrix part #s) plus their prices, as well as the costs and sources of all aftermarket parts I am acquiring.
3) Are you willing to spend hours reading factory service manual sections and diagrams, especially vacuum routing?
4) Here's a big one: do you have any experienced friends who can help you with it?
5) And last, are you mentally prepared to spend up to several MONTHS debugging the vehicle once it's been put back together? Are you a patient person?
For me, the answer was yes to all those questions. I just did my first porting job (exhaust ports, easier than intake ports) and I've got two experienced friends coming over this week to help me put my first motor together. I've learned a ton about cars and rotary engines. But as you can see, it is a big undertaking. I would guess it will take you no less than 4-6 months, and all the way up to 9 months depending on what you do and how well it goes. This is mostly because of debugging time and waiting on all the little parts or tools to do the job. It can be very rewarding but very frustrating too.
The questions you need to ask yourself are:
1) Do you enjoy working on this car as much as you enjoy driving it, or is fixing it almost an obstacle to enjoyment of the vehicle?
2) How organized are you? Can you remove every single piece, put it in a bag, and label it? It does make the disassembly process take twice as long but it helps immensely. I also thread or ziptie the original bolts into their respective locations whenever possible. Sometimes you will have to draw diagrams of how the parts were installed originally. You will also need to carefully maintain a spreadsheet with part numbers of every single gasket, o-ring, crush waster, etc you will need. I have a spreadsheet with at least 20 OEM part numbers (actually, Mazdatrix part #s) plus their prices, as well as the costs and sources of all aftermarket parts I am acquiring.
3) Are you willing to spend hours reading factory service manual sections and diagrams, especially vacuum routing?
4) Here's a big one: do you have any experienced friends who can help you with it?
5) And last, are you mentally prepared to spend up to several MONTHS debugging the vehicle once it's been put back together? Are you a patient person?
For me, the answer was yes to all those questions. I just did my first porting job (exhaust ports, easier than intake ports) and I've got two experienced friends coming over this week to help me put my first motor together. I've learned a ton about cars and rotary engines. But as you can see, it is a big undertaking. I would guess it will take you no less than 4-6 months, and all the way up to 9 months depending on what you do and how well it goes. This is mostly because of debugging time and waiting on all the little parts or tools to do the job. It can be very rewarding but very frustrating too.
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somich = southern michigan
Chris owns Banzai
My friend is helping me, hes certifiied in everything BUT automatic transmissions and Air conditioning. he just broke the news to me hes leaving for the army.. didnt tell anyone. so heres my plan
pull motor
strip it to short block
send it to Banzai, for rebuild/porting
Install motor
(depending on how it goes I might have Banzai do the install or finish what i couldnt)- im wanting to learn as much as possible
then take it to Banzai for tuning and just to do a quick once-over to make sure i did everything correctly. by pulling and putting my motor in a should save some moeny while still being able to learn some
EDIT- 200th post. wooo
Chris owns Banzai
My friend is helping me, hes certifiied in everything BUT automatic transmissions and Air conditioning. he just broke the news to me hes leaving for the army.. didnt tell anyone. so heres my plan
pull motor
strip it to short block
send it to Banzai, for rebuild/porting
Install motor
(depending on how it goes I might have Banzai do the install or finish what i couldnt)- im wanting to learn as much as possible
then take it to Banzai for tuning and just to do a quick once-over to make sure i did everything correctly. by pulling and putting my motor in a should save some moeny while still being able to learn some
EDIT- 200th post. wooo
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