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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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A/C on, engine idles too low. Help?

With the power FC installed, i turn my A/C on and the engine idles at 500rpms. I figured no problem, it must be set wrong in the power fc. So i ordered the Commander, and i hook it up. It says that my car should idle at 900 with the A/C on. So i start uping then idle on it, and nothing happens. What is going on here? Could i have a bad sensor? Thanks..........Russell
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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what is the base idle? is the IAC plugged in?
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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I can adjust the normal idle just fine. But when the A/C is on i can't adjust the idle control for it. But it idles around 750 i think.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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have you adjusted the idle a/c and idle e/l settings?
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by mad_7tist
have you adjusted the idle a/c and idle e/l settings?
You have to adjust them both?
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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Yes. If they're the same, when there is a load (A/C is a big one), it won't know to increase the idle. The other E/L is fans to 3, or parking lights, or headlights. If you have any of those on, does it idle correctly? If not, there's your problem.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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even with just the A/C on and nothing else, it idles at 500.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:03 AM
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First, connect the Idle Speed Control solenoid behind the throttle body. That is what controls the idle under load conditions such as a/c or electric.

Second, download and read the PFC manual from the Engine Management > PowerFC section on this site.

Third, check/adjust the idle settings. You probably want 850 regular idle, 870 electric and 950 a/c.

Fourth, check TPS voltages under the ETC menu and verify that they are in spec. Specs are in the factory service manual (FSM).

Fifth, do the full idle calibration on the PowerFC. Takes about 30 minutes. Let it idle w/o electric load for 10 minutes, idle with a/c on for 10 minutes, turn a/c off and turn defroster on for 10 minutes.

Search for idle fixes here. There are so many posts already. I just did the above procedure based upon the posts I found on here and my idle and throttle control is much better now.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Thanks...... I bought my PFC and commander at sperate times. Of course i bought my PFC first and it didn't come with instructions so i called the place and asked about it and they said that the instructions come with the commander when you buy it. Well i got the commander from the same place and the only instructions i have are the ones to operate the commander.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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im gonna think outside of the box on this one. check that a/c condensor? (the silver can we always bend back and forth when doing some jobs above the radiator) see if either the two lines are kined badly.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Old May 1, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by scratchjunkie
im gonna think outside of the box on this one. check that a/c condensor? (the silver can we always bend back and forth when doing some jobs above the radiator) see if either the two lines are kined badly.
Um.........The A/C works fine. My car just idles at 500 rpms when the A/C is on.
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Old May 1, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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im gonna think outside of the box on this one. check that a/c condensor? (the silver can we always bend back and forth when doing some jobs above the radiator) see if either the two lines are kined badly.
That (might) cause the condenser to cycle on and off if it was backing up the pressure. It would not cause a consistantly low idle though.

I had the same problem with my car. Unfortunatly, im still fighting with it. Just quit using the A/C. lol
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Old May 2, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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My A/C comes on and works great. My car just doesn't idle up with it on. My powerfc shows the a/c turning on and off. I'm really confused.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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well what about the iac?
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Old May 2, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by mad_7tist
well what about the iac?
I can adjust the idle just fine using the Commander. But when the A/C is on and i turn up the ac idle too 1100, it doesn't make a differance in the idle. It still idles at 500 rpms.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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Idle air control valve $380 from the dealer I need one also.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 11:52 PM
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why would it be my IAC when i can control my idle just fine with the commander, except for the AC idle setting.
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Old May 3, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by alberto_mg
First, connect the Idle Speed Control solenoid behind the throttle body. That is what controls the idle under load conditions such as a/c or electric.

Second, download and read the PFC manual from the Engine Management > PowerFC section on this site.

Third, check/adjust the idle settings. You probably want 850 regular idle, 870 electric and 950 a/c.

Fourth, check TPS voltages under the ETC menu and verify that they are in spec. Specs are in the factory service manual (FSM).

Fifth, do the full idle calibration on the PowerFC. Takes about 30 minutes. Let it idle w/o electric load for 10 minutes, idle with a/c on for 10 minutes, turn a/c off and turn defroster on for 10 minutes.

Search for idle fixes here. There are so many posts already. I just did the above procedure based upon the posts I found on here and my idle and throttle control is much better now.
re-read #1 above

if you want to check your ISC aka IAC you can pull it out and check amperage. the specs are listed in the FSM
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