Is Black Soot/Melting Inevitable when Modifying an FD?
12-02-03, 02:08 PM
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Is Black Soot/Melting Inevitable when Modifying an FD?
Is there some way to avoid the soot/melting problem? It seems that even with a HF Cat that people are experiencing this problem. What level of modification is possible without this happening? I know this is a much talked about subject, but I didn't see any threads that specifically addressed what performance mods were possible without having this happen.
I am hoping to build a car with ~300RWHP. I have read a lot of threads and it seems that at that level of performance you are destined to soot/melt a bumper, unless you put a heatshield on, which I am not too fond of, but I suppose I will if I must.
Just want some input. Thanks.
I am hoping to build a car with ~300RWHP. I have read a lot of threads and it seems that at that level of performance you are destined to soot/melt a bumper, unless you put a heatshield on, which I am not too fond of, but I suppose I will if I must.
Just want some input. Thanks.
12-02-03, 02:22 PM
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Melted bumpers are caused by people buying large tipped exhausts that don't fit properly. Well made exhausts without 5" tips don't cause any damage.
Soot will build up on any car that is running without a cat.
Soot will build up on any car that is running without a cat.
12-02-03, 02:49 PM
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it always comes back to the RB exhausts doesn't it. 
I am not too fond of the look of the single tip RB(I prefer single to dual), but Racing Beat seems to be the exhaust of choice.
I am not too fond of the look of the single tip RB(I prefer single to dual), but Racing Beat seems to be the exhaust of choice.
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12-02-03, 02:58 PM
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I have the Racing beat single, and while I still managed to soot up the bumper, there is no melting.
The soot probably came from me running really rich after blowing my primary turbo too.
The soot probably came from me running really rich after blowing my primary turbo too.
12-02-03, 03:04 PM
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PFS catback on mine. I have a resonated MP and don't have soot on mine. I think the soot depends on how rich your running as well as any oil that might be slipping by the seals in the turbos.
A somewhat tuned car in good health shouldn't leave soot, IMO.
Tim
A somewhat tuned car in good health shouldn't leave soot, IMO.
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12-02-03, 03:16 PM
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my tip is 5". 3.5" piping from the turbos back then to a custom canister leaves soot doesn't melt the bumber. did a lil bit when it kept shooting flames but not its all good.
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12-02-03, 03:22 PM
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i am not too worried about the soot. one my car is black and two i clean my car a couple of times a week and wax it about once a month. I just don't want any melting.
12-02-03, 03:26 PM
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you have the stock bumber? if so go to a shope and see if they can made a fiberglass heat sheail that will rivit to the bumber then get it painted black. see a small seem thats all.
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12-02-03, 04:24 PM
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Melted bumpers are caused by people buying large tipped exhausts that don't fit properly. Well made exhausts without 5" tips don't cause any damage.
Soot will build up on any car that is running without a cat.
Melted bumpers are caused by people buying large tipped exhausts that don't fit properly. Well made exhausts without 5" tips don't cause any damage.
Soot will build up on any car that is running without a cat.
As for the soot, it's just something you'll have to clean when cleaning your car. It's not a big deal.
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i have am running 300rwhp with an apex gt spec, dp, and mp and have not melted my bumper in several track events and years of street driving. the black trim got very slightly melted only because it was touching the tip. the white bumper does turn slightly brown but it comes off with goof-off. just keep it well waxed to make it easier to clean
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Somehow I feel jspecracer's comments on old people are appropriate here:
http://www.vosko.net/media/jspecrace...t%20sound..MPG
http://www.vosko.net/media/jspecrace...t%20sound..MPG
12-02-03, 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by cloud9
does anybody have an audio file of the RB dual tip exhaust? or know where I can find one? thanks
does anybody have an audio file of the RB dual tip exhaust? or know where I can find one? thanks
http://tom93r1.kicks-***.net:8080/vid/RB.AVI
Somebody asked about how PFS compares to RB for noise, one of the guys in the local club has PFS and it is noticablly louder. I would say 50% louder under just about all conditions. If the RB is too quiet then this one seems to be a good alternative.