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Old 10-08-03, 11:00 PM
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Best Way To get a Reliable 7

Ok after some time searching for a car I come to this conclusion! But this is just what I think.

A running 93 FD will cost from 10K to 20k!! from bone stock to single turbo. Condition of the car really varies.

Now I am thinking about a better approach.
Get a FD for $6500 FD with blown engine. (maybe some aftermarket parts included)

Rebuilt the engine for around 3k
get a brand new 99 spec turbo for 3k
perform all reliablity upgrade yourself for around 1k, assumming some upgrades already done by previous owner (eg. aluminum AST, Dp, boost gauge ect)
Sums up around 14k

Now You can be sure that you have a very strong running Perfect boost pattern FD.
Save money and start the mods

Thats just what I think so far. Any opinion welcome
Old 10-08-03, 11:05 PM
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It sounds like an OK idea, but thats assuming that everything else on the car is working correctly, with the exception of the engine and the turbos, which may or may not be the case. Thats also assuming you R&R the motor yourself, which is quite an undertaking for a newbie to rx-7's.

Personally, I trade out those 99 spec turbos for BNR stage 3 turbos and an APEXi Power FC, but to each his own.
Old 10-08-03, 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by 911GT2
It sounds like an OK idea, but thats assuming that everything else on the car is working correctly, with the exception of the engine and the turbos, which may or may not be the case. Thats also assuming you R&R the motor yourself, which is quite an undertaking for a newbie to rx-7's.

Personally, I trade out those 99 spec turbos for BNR stage 3 turbos and an APEXi Power FC, but to each his own.
Sorry I dont get what R&R meant!!
Does BNR use factory Core? or its new set of turbos???
I thought removing the engine wasnt that hard to do??
So i guess rebuild by professionals cost more than 3k.

From what my understanding. The problem with RX-7 is its engine and the vuccum lines. So what other major mechanical problem is there to consider when getting the car.
I thought the car just overheat and knock(detonation)
I am just a newbie!! Thanks for answering my questions
Old 10-08-03, 11:19 PM
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I'd get the engine rebuilt by a pro, and have them do a mild street port while they're at it... gives you some more headroom in terms of hp.
Old 10-08-03, 11:45 PM
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If your looking for reliability just go single. It'll get rid of the complicated vaccum hose system. But I think the best way to get a reliable 7 is to have a daily driver.
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The problem with RX-7 is its engine and the vuccum lines.
Not really. The main problem is improper maintence and not enough research into what mods will work with different applications. People blow up their motors because they mod their car wrong or take it to the wrong people to service while trying to save a buck and with cheap parts. What do you expect?

I know people who get over 100,000 miles out of a motor and turbos and their cars arent babied, not beat the **** out of etheir. They do all their own maintence and know the car and how to take care of it properly. I am tired of people putting down the FD by saying its a design flaw or its too delicate to run hard. Its definately not the car for everyone etheir and wasnt designed to be. My best advise to you is do some research shop for a while look at a few examples until you find one that someone took good care of and buy it. Do not buy the first one you see and fall for a "bargin" there arent too many good running FD's for cheap. Start with a good running cared for car and do what you would like. Good luck and take your time.
Old 10-08-03, 11:57 PM
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If you want really reliable, take off the turbos, run NA, and don't shift past 3k.....otherwise, just get used to the fact that a new engine every 100K is going to be a normal thing.
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Buy a high mile one in good condition.

Tear it down and build it from the bare bones. Best way to go. Replace it all!

Well, that's what I would do if I could get a loan from jimlab.
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Agreed!

Originally posted by 2-Rotor
Not really. The main problem is improper maintence and not enough research into what mods will work with different applications. People blow up their motors because they mod their car wrong or take it to the wrong people to service while trying to save a buck and with cheap parts. What do you expect?

I know people who get over 100,000 miles out of a motor and turbos and their cars arent babied, not beat the **** out of etheir. They do all their own maintence and know the car and how to take care of it properly. I am tired of people putting down the FD by saying its a design flaw or its too delicate to run hard. Its definately not the car for everyone etheir and wasnt designed to be. My best advise to you is do some research shop for a while look at a few examples until you find one that someone took good care of and buy it. Do not buy the first one you see and fall for a "bargin" there arent too many good running FD's for cheap. Start with a good running cared for car and do what you would like. Good luck and take your time.
Sounds a little harsh but sometimes that's the nature of quality advice!
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Originally posted by FRtengoku

I thought removing the engine wasnt that hard to do??
So i guess rebuild by professionals cost more than 3k.

Rotary power charges $3100 for a light street port with 3MM apex seals. $1400 installation charge.
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Re: Advise

Originally posted by 2-Rotor
Not really. The main problem is improper maintence and not enough research into what mods will work with different applications. People blow up their motors because they mod their car wrong or take it to the wrong people to service while trying to save a buck and with cheap parts. What do you expect?

I know people who get over 100,000 miles out of a motor and turbos and their cars arent babied, not beat the **** out of etheir. They do all their own maintence and know the car and how to take care of it properly. I am tired of people putting down the FD by saying its a design flaw or its too delicate to run hard. Its definately not the car for everyone etheir and wasnt designed to be. My best advise to you is do some research shop for a while look at a few examples until you find one that someone took good care of and buy it. Do not buy the first one you see and fall for a "bargin" there arent too many good running FD's for cheap. Start with a good running cared for car and do what you would like. Good luck and take your time.
i agree. in fact i really get annoyed when i hear otherwise!
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The best way to get a reliable FD is...

... not to get one at all. Serious.

Actually who cares about the engine and turbo condition. You'll want to have it all rebuilt as soon as you get it. Just make sure the body is in good condition and not salvaged. If the interior/exterior is in good condition you'll save money in the long run.
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Originally posted by HeX
The best way to get a reliable FD is...

... not to get one at all. Serious.

Actually who cares about the engine and turbo condition. You'll want to have it all rebuilt as soon as you get it. Just make sure the body is in good condition and not salvaged. If the interior/exterior is in good condition you'll save money in the long run.
The point I try to get across is the cheapest way to have a Reliable FD. Ofcourse the Turbo and the engine will need a rebuild. The question is HOW LONG is the origianl pair gonna last??

See A runny Fd with good engine and turbo can go for 12.5k easy!!! But how many miles is it gonna last?? No one can answer that!! How did the previous owner treat the car??? Hard to tell!!
If you get a new turbo and new Engine, at least you will be sure that you get the right Maintenance done at the right time. "Maintenance" is the key to long lasting Rotary Engine.
YEah I am just a poor college student trying to find the cheapest way to have a healthy FD!!!
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If you want a reliable FD. Take out all the electrical wire and rewire it yourself with brand new stuf, remove the ABS, A/C, Power Steering and anythign else that isn't necessary. Upgrade anything that can break and then as someone else said, run an N/A engine and never go over 3k rpms.

Seriously a reliable FD is an oxymoron, its not gonna happen, but yes a fresh rebuild and turbos is a good place to start, but other **** will definitely break and/or malfunction. Its only a matter of time
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Originally posted by FRtengoku
cheapest way to have a healthy FD!!!
"Cheap and healthy FD", is the biggest grammatical error you can ever commit in the English language.

There is no way you can measure an engine and turbos health by engine mileage. Some people properly take car of their rotaries and some don't. You can probably find yourself a 30k 7 ready to blow a seal or turbo. There's no way to know unless you pay for a diagnostic. Either way, have some $$$ to have it all rebuilt right after you purchase it.
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Agreed!! Always need to $$$ ready When you have A 7
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PARK IT. . . CAUSE YOU KNOW ITLL RELIABLY STAY PARKED!!!!! hahahaha. . . sorry about the caps. . . just had to "get the feeling" there. . teehee

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