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Old 06-05-03, 09:12 AM
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Best titanium cat-back

I would like to buy titanium cat-back for my FD.
Opinions about weight and performance ?
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There is the JIC, the HKS which is a DP back, the rotary extreme and the RS*R(which isn't out yet)

www.rotaryextreme.com
www.jic-magic.com
www.rotaryextreme.com
www.hksusa.com
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www.rotaryextreme.com - another shameless plug.
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I like the JIC one.
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HKS Ti has 4" piping. Its too big for stock twins. You will lost the low-end. 3" piping always the best I think.
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Originally posted by Little 7
HKS Ti has 4" piping. Its too big for stock twins. You will lost the low-end. 3" piping always the best I think.
Hmmm, I was thinking of the Rotary Extreme TI, but it's also 4" piping. I guess what you lose on the low end you regain at the top...
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I don't beleive the HKS has titanium piping, only the can (yes refering to the racing 4" version). JIC is full titanium (and RotaryExtreme). Other brands are Kakimoto, RMagic and Border Racing but I don't think you'll get a better price for "all" titanium then JIC.
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What's wrong with Rotary Extreme?
Old 06-05-03, 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by GoRacer
I don't beleive the HKS has titanium piping, only the can (yes refering to the racing 4" version). JIC is full titanium (and RotaryExtreme). Other brands are Kakimoto, RMagic and Border Racing but I don't think you'll get a better price for "all" titanium then JIC.
$1200, it better be full titanium!!!

The JIC one is better I think. There is less angle in the bend. Plus it's $900.
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Originally posted by Little 7
HKS Ti has 4" piping. Its too big for stock twins. You will lost the low-end. 3" piping always the best I think.
You might on a naturally aspirated car, but a turbocharged car doesn't require backpressure, and in fact, works better without it... which is precisely why eliminating the catalytic converters helps spool the turbos more quickly.
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Originally posted by vudoodoodoo
$1200, it better be full titanium!!!

The JIC one is better I think. There is less angle in the bend. Plus it's $900.
Sggested retail $1525 but it includes a mid pipe. Anyhow below is from HKSUSA...

For extreme horsepower applications, the HKS Racing Muffler system, constructed of 102mm diameter stainless steel piping, a 170mm Titanium muffler assembly and a 115mm tip, is the lightest system and the highest flowing exhaust system HKS has to offer. FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY
I don't see any reason for 4" piping considering that the downpipe is 3" and the exhaust cools as it exits and becomes more dense. Who has the need for it anyhow?
For the high 800 -1000 horsepower range applications, HKS offers the Racing Muffler system...

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Originally posted by GoRacer
Sggested retail $1525 but it includes a mid pipe. Anyhow below is from HKSUSA...
Damn, that's a rip off even with the DP.
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Not DP! MP only
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90mm is 3.54", not 4"

1" = 25.4mm

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Hmmm, I was thinking of the Rotary Extreme TI, but it's also 4" piping. I guess what you lose on the low end you regain at the top...
Old 06-05-03, 09:56 PM
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I know you want a full ti, but look into the carbon ti exhaust from the HKS. I heard the sound of it and it has a nice note to it.
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JIC is the way to go. It weights almost nothing, but very loud.

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Originally posted by tbielobockie
Ti exhaust is a total waste of money. If you buy one you are a sucker.
Really?

The HKS Ti whooped ***. Check here for the testing.

http://www.t04r.com/may03exhausttest.html
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It's not a waste of money, titanium makes a great light weight watch. ok, it's not needed except for racing to shave weght but their is a cool factor if you can afford it.

OK, the best bang4dbuck is JIC and if you want bigger piping and "all" titanium it's RotaryExtreme. I think we'll have to see how the Kakimoto rates after Jason tests them. The best sounding, hp and lightest titanium (cost not being a factor) was RMagic (posted in Japan thread).

If you want the lightest and best quality similar to JIC titanium but in stainless steel for 1/2 the cost ...Buddy Club (Spec 3), baby.

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You guys are forgeting alot of others like ...

www.kakimotoracing.co.jp

the GT1.oz are the lightest i have seen. not sure about the sound.

and of course

Fujita Engineering

www.pac-gate.co.jp/feed/fd-fs2.html

SONIC Ti-R( all TI muffler)

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Gothem racing is supposed to be offering one but I haven't seen any pics yet.
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Fujita Engineering (Sonic Ti-R)
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Originally posted by SomeGuy_sg
You guys are forgeting alot of others like ...

www.kakimotoracing.co.jp

the GT1.oz are the lightest i have seen. not sure about the sound.

and of course

Fujita Engineering

www.pac-gate.co.jp/feed/fd-fs2.html

SONIC Ti-R( all TI muffler)
I mentioned Kaimoto and since RX7Store sells it I would think it would be in the test and a good comparison for JIC since they are almost equal in price.

Feed Sonic Ti' would be duble (or more) the money and in the same price range as Border, RE-A, R-Magic, etc.

RMagic GT titanium (below)

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Originally posted by tbielobockie
If you gotta have it for the bling bling effect thats cool. But for the 5 or so lbs you will save over steel you'd have to be filthy rich to justfy the expense.
Damn, I actually agree with something tbieloblockie said! Did hell just freeze over?
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is there such a thing as a bad titanium cat back exhaust... comparing apples to oranges

once ur down to >10 lbs , its all good
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The FEED Ti exhuast looks pretty sweet but $2250 makes me sick to my stomach



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