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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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Question best brakes for stock rims (2003)

I have searched and read many posts about this but they are way out dated now. Anyone care to update on brake setups that fit stock rims.

Also, I would be very interested in gettin the RZ/RS brakes but I have herd conflicting reports on if they fit with stock 16" rims. If they fit on stock rims I would get them tomorrow.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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Re: best brakes for stock rims (2003)

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I would be very interested in gettin the RZ/RS brakes but I have herd conflicting reports on if they fit with stock 16" rims. If they fit on stock rims I would get them tomorrow.
You definitely will need 17-inch wheels to fit over the Type RS/RZ brakes. The calipers and rotors are larger than the US spec calipers/rotors. The 16-inch temp spare is worthless too, so you'll need FIVE 17-inch wheels (the extra is the full size spare you'll carry around). Get 9-inch to 9.5 -inch wide (45 to 50 mm offset) with 255/40-17s...Perfect street/track setup. I have 9 x 17, 45-mm offset SSR Integral A2s. You can also fit the same size in SSR GT-1s. A more aggressive SSR wheel is the Competition in 9.5 x 17 in 42-mm offset. These wheels will fit fr/rr IF you mount 255/40-17s. Any taller, 265/40- or 275/40- will rub the front fender lips FOR SURE!
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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I dont know if anyone makes a good brake kit that would fit in 16 inch rims but getting brakes form another car like the RZ/Spirit R would probably be good. You could always just upgrade the pads and rotors too...
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Re: Re: best brakes for stock rims (2003)

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You definitely will need 17-inch wheels to fit over the Type RS/RZ brakes. The calipers and rotors are larger than the US spec calipers/rotors. The 16-inch temp spare is worthless too, so you'll need FIVE 17-inch wheels (the extra is the full size spare you'll carry around). Get 9-inch to 9.5 -inch wide (45 to 50 mm offset) with 255/40-17s...Perfect street/track setup. I have 9 x 17, 45-mm offset SSR Integral A2s. You can also fit the same size in SSR GT-1s. A more aggressive SSR wheel is the Competition in 9.5 x 17 in 42-mm offset. These wheels will fit fr/rr IF you mount 255/40-17s. Any taller, 265/40- or 275/40- will rub the front fender lips FOR SURE!

well next to him i dont know anything so forget what i said lol.. (he replied right before i did so i didnt see the post)
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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The M2 Wilwood front kit fits in the 16" wheels.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 04:54 PM
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how about brake ducts? are there any for the FD?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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N-tech makes backing plates to accept hose from the spoiler openings... you have to fab the rest...

CWR used to sell CF indy-car style backing plates w/ scoops for the pressurized fender well air... originally designed by David Breslau... who i heard was revising the design for his company, widefoot racing, but i haven't heard of them being on sale yet.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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So where could I get a set of RZ/RS brakes?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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thanks for the replies guys, and i figured you would chime in SleepR1, I really wanted to keep the stock rims, but i guess I will have to step up to 17 track rims, I probably will end up with the setup you have SleepR1, once i can afford it, I'm getting coilovers first, then i do the brakes up.

so i assume you really like the rs/rz brake setup, any updated comments on the braking feel....did you upgrade the MC to the 929 too?

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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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You shouldn't need the 929 MC with the RS/RZ pachage, because the calipers are basically the same as the '93s. Same piston sizes all around, the only diff if the the fronts are wider to accomodate a wider rotor, and both have longer mount tabs to accomodate larger diameter rotors F/R.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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i herd the front pistons are different, the top is smaller, bottom larger?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by ptrhahn
You shouldn't need the 929 MC with the RS/RZ pachage, because the calipers are basically the same as the '93s. Same piston sizes all around, the only diff if the the fronts are wider to accomodate a wider rotor, and both have longer mount tabs to accomodate larger diameter rotors F/R.
The Type RS front rotors AND calipers are larger than the US Spec rotors and calipers. The front calipers are beefier with asymmetric sized pistons (one is larger). The front rotors are larger in diameter and thicker. The rear rotors are larger, but only in diameter. The rear rotor thickness is the same as the US spec rear rotor. The rear Type RS/RZ calipers are similar to the US spec rr calipers, but are designed to work with the larger diameter rear Type RS rotor. The entire brake kit is a true upgrade and works very, very well on the road and at open track events (with either EBC Green Stuffs or Type RS/RZ Sumitomo pads fr/rr). There's no need to do the maxcooper or fabian kit, if you don't have the money for those kits. I could go on, but I've written up a review on the Type RS/RZ brakes late last year. Just do a search in suspension/wheels/tires/brakes. The stock US spec master cylinder works just fine with the Type RS/RZ brake hardware.

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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by kyle@insight
So where could I get a set of RZ/RS brakes?
We're working on a group buy in the Suspension/Wheel section. Should be happening in the near future. Jason/RX7 Store is handling the calipers and related hardware, and Precision Brakes will be doing custom 2 piece rotors (aluminum hats, directional iron rotors.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...87#post1961687

I'll be following up with Jason again Monday for pricing, and the RZ/RS spec rotors are on their way to Precision for design- thanks to a forum member that was kind enough to lend them.
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