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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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any new updates on anti detonation device?

are there any new updates on this thing, im so interested in it, but havent heard anything lately. does any other people have this? share with us how you feel about it and if it is worth it!!!
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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Batman should be up to speed on any new developments. I'm sure he'll chime in very soon.
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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I'm running it currently. Have had the car back for a month and no problems with 89 octane. Here is the dyno graph for my car at 16psi.
It kind of funny actually. When the car has high intake temps or possible too lean condition, the exhaust starts back firing because the device doesn't allow the chamber for fire, so it fires in the exhaust I guess.
Deffinitely a cool device though.

http://www.replicoz.com/16psidyno.jpg
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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Oh yeah and some CRAZY negative split. Like -12 in the low pressure, low RPM range. Slowly working to flat 0 split at 16+ psi. The torque is what is kind of nice about this device from what I've found. The car doesn't show alot of hp, but it doesn't have any problem breaking the 335's loose at the top of 2nd gear.
I'll keep everyone posted about the car. I think I'm on my last motor. If I pop another one, it's V8 time.
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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hmmm.....I wish I knew what it was.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Conv.WS6
I'm running it currently. Have had the car back for a month and no problems with 89 octane. Here is the dyno graph for my car at 16psi.
It kind of funny actually. When the car has high intake temps or possible too lean condition, the exhaust starts back firing because the device doesn't allow the chamber for fire, so it fires in the exhaust I guess.
Deffinitely a cool device though.

http://www.replicoz.com/16psidyno.jpg
Get your car up to columbus and I will tune it for you. You are missing at least 50 HP.
0 split? thats nuts. I wish I had the ***** to run that

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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what is this anti detonation device?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 01:32 AM
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Its a mysterious device KDR has developed which allows FD drivers to use 89 octane gas which is regular gas at the stations. Less money for gas and up to certain extend has advantages that many aren't clear with.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 01:39 AM
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how will it be mass produced? kdr is pretty far away from where I live, so I cant have one installed there. Will they be selling their product and shipping it anytime soon?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 01:54 AM
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it doesnt look that way. im not sure how theyre gonna be doing it. . . im looking at a 1kmile drive for the installation.

ive been wondering what this thing is myself. . . it may be that one of my strange uneducated assumptions is possibly true. . . check your sparkplug wiring if you dont mind and see if its hooked up into stock configuration. im interested to know if they found a way to change up the trailing and leading whatnot. . . keep in mind guys, i havent even pondered what this might do to an engine so its purely an UNeducated assumption.

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 02:59 AM
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WTF? I knew of this device, but I did not know someone already has it and is running a test on it here on the forum. More info!!!!!!
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Conv.WS6
I'm running it currently. Have had the car back for a month and no problems with 89 octane. Here is the dyno graph for my car at 16psi.
It kind of funny actually. When the car has high intake temps or possible too lean condition, the exhaust starts back firing because the device doesn't allow the chamber for fire, so it fires in the exhaust I guess.
Deffinitely a cool device though.

http://www.replicoz.com/16psidyno.jpg
i dont understand how that graph differs from a non anti det car. the torque looks normal to me.

Is there any measurable differences besides the fact that it allows u to run lower octane?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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Get your car up to columbus and I will tune it for you. You are missing at least 50 HP.
0 split? thats nuts. I wish I had the ***** to run that

Jason
jason, i think thats how u tune for this device.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:15 AM
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Check your fuel feed line see if there is anything fishy looking
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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Check your fuel feed line see if there is anything fishy looking
Haha, it must be a secret tank/pump that adds octane booster to your fuel injection!

Mystery solved!
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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LMAO guys. Yeah I'm looking into a v mount intercooler and relocating the AIT Sensor, so I'll go fishing then.
As far as the dyno graph is concerned it just shows that the device flatens it out a bit, from what I've seen. The device isn't geared towards giving more hp just to let you know. Just geared to keep you from blowing the motor. Working so far, I'm going back to 89 octane for a while running 14-16psi and then going on up to 18psi with 93 in it in about a month. Jason I would let you tune the car, but I don't know enough about the Anti Det Device yet to play with the tuning. A/F Ratios are running 12:1, and the timing is exetremely advanced, so I think the lack of hp is mainly due to my Stock port motor. That's ok though. 371rwhp put 8 car lengths on a new ford lightening through 1-2-3rd. LOL.... Even pausing to shake my head and laugh between gears.
KDR has been getting some solid results from these boxs and even their mechanics have them installed. From the smoothness of the Dyno graph and how the car runs, I think KDR has their Tuning issues down pat now.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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lower octane, and no need for Race gas which for me pays for itself very quickly in the summer months.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Conv.WS6
lower octane, and no need for Race gas which for me pays for itself very quickly in the summer months.
but whats really the benfit for us still on stock twins?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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Well, if you can run 89 octane that will probably save a few hundred a year in gas, and there is much less chance of detonation. If you have a programable ECU, there is much more power to be had as well with changes in timing.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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Batman should be up to speed on any new developments. I'm sure he'll chime in very soon.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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how will it be mass produced? kdr is pretty far away from where I live, so I cant have one installed there. Will they be selling their product and shipping it anytime soon?
Don't worry about that.

I know for a fact that he is working with a shop about 1 hour south east of u.

Sorry, that is all the info I can give at this time.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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I cant get the dyno graph to pull up. Can somone make it show up on the board? I'd like to see it

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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copy the link and past it in a new window...it will show up
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