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Old 12-22-02, 04:53 PM
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so my car hasnt givin me problems forever and the other night i try to start it and it wont ... it kicks like it wants to but it would not.. Ive already checked , its getting fuel, its getting spark, and i put in brand new plugs, but the frigin thing wont start up.. the exact same thing happened to me whenever i took it through a auto car wash... which means electrical is getting wet somewhere... it has been raining lots here.. but my car has been in the rain lots of times so im not sure if this is the case.. if soo.. where should i dry out... ? coils? under the intake manifold or..?? im confused and want to shoot my car... any help would be greatfull .. thanks btw.. all my sensors and plugs are all in and everything ...
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is it flooded?
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no it seems to want to start when i pump the hell outta the gas pedal... ... also whenever i did get it started it smoked like a ****.. black, smoke... which means it was burning oil.... what would cause this
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well did u change ur oil, if not do it, also each time u try to start ur car after a while, check ur plugs cuz they will get filled up will oil and get dirty and stuff, clean them with sand paper or somthing. also i heard this guy on the forum say wut to do if u think ur engine is flooded,

hold the gas down and turn it over for like 15 secs
then turn it over again with no gas down for 15
then do it for 10 secs no gas
then pump the gas twice,
then try starting it.
i think this about wut he said, its basically trying to get what ever liquids in the engine out and in with a new fresh start. hope i help lil bit
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Adequate Spark

I know you said you are getting spark, but is it adequate. Whenever my pre-ei, pre-efi cars would not start, it was because it had recently rained. Changing plugs seemed to help a bit, but replacing the wires always did the trick.
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MAP sensor hose. Black smoke, bad idle are typical symptoms. The MAP sensor is on the firewall sorta near the brake booster. Check to make sure there is a hose attached.

If you've run it like this it CAN flood it. Floor the accelerator, don't pump and crank it over. Do this for 10-15 secs a few times. Stop. Then try and start it like you normally do. Oops, just read rx7raca typed the same thing...

Black smoke = fuel
Blue smoke = oil



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map sensor is good.... idles great... ran great *L*
oil was just changed as well.. i guess ill assume its flooded then and take appropiate action thnkx for the help
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Hey Josh, did you get it started? Maybe I can help you out if not. PM me if you want to talk.

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