Someone stated earlier that FD's are know for blowing engines at 50,000 miles. I'm over 80,000 miles now and my 94 seems to be running like new on the original engine. No rebuild. How many of you guys out there have had blown engines under 100,000 miles? Just curious. Oh and buy the way. Get a water temp gauge. Could save you $5000 next time.

 

I know what you saying. My second FD had 202k miles on the original before it was torn down for porting. Internals looked good too.

 

I presume most of the "low milage" engine failure (~50-60k miles) are due to overheat, too much boost, no maintenance, etc. otherwise they should be O.K for at least 100-120K miles

BTW..... you break it, you buy it

 

This thread makes me LOL...

 

Almost all of us. Its the nature of the beast. In stock form, it runs hot, and the coolant seals can't take it.

 

This is not common. I think it was a sarcastic comment and meant to be taken as such. Some of the ways they do go early are 1) poorly rebuilt 2) overboosted (main reason) 3) water seal failure/overheated 4) OMP failure 5) general lack of maintenance.

People like this just irritate me.... THEY break something and then try to blame thier issues, problems, shortcoming, ignorance, stupidity (call it what you will) on someone else. No wonder why this country and a good portion of the world is in trouble right now. Few willing to own up to thier mistakes and just say, "Man that sucks, but it was my fault."

YOU broke the car just like stated above. You drove it into an overheating situation and if you did any research on here first you would have found that the stock temp gauge basically reads, "cold", "you are ok" and "time for a rebuild".

I am not sure where you aquired a brand new engine, but the only way that is possible is if this is one of the new engines that came available a while back and someone just had it sitting around in thier garage/shop and for whatever reason decided to sell it to you. You cannot walk into Mazda and purchase a brand new motor for these cars, b/c they don't make em. They only sell reman's to my knowledge. The NEW motors were snapped up very quickly (mostly by ppl on here). By saying this I am just trying to help you by telling you do your homework on the very expensive engine you just bought and make sure someone did not srew you by selling you a "new" engine and it is really something else. +1 on the comment above you shoudl have just called up IRPerformance to rebuild your old one for far cheaper (and probably better built).

 

You gotta know what your getting into before buying an FD. Its not just buy and drive.

 

There have been several non scientific surveys on this board over the years on this topic. 100k is certainly possible, but only a small percentage of cars get there - probably less than 5%. Most have failed by 80k and a considerable number fail much earlier.

There is a small band of owners that still like to think that the engine will last indefinitely if maintained properly (these are mostly people whose engine has not blown yet) but coolant seal failure can happen no matter how well the car is maintained.

I have 55k on my original engine and it still runs like a champ - but I would not spend much time looking for answers if it blew tomorrow.

 

Sorry I just cant believe this, were you the original owner? FDs eat housings anything above 100k miles, they are just much harder on housings than the earlier NA setups. Even the earlier NA setups you wouldnt want to use housings that have over 120k miles unless you didnt care about having low compression.

Anyways, back to the OP, I dont think lemon laws apply to 16 yr old cars I hate to be the voice of reality but anyone who buys a 16 yr old car(could care less about mileage) and doesnt replace all the belts, hoses, clamps, etc is waiting for something to go wrong. Hell I have a 93 with 52,xxx miles in the driveway right now that is about to be receiving its third engine.

 

Coolant seals and the heat, apex seals and the wonderful stock ECU that cant take even 1 psi of extra boost without detonating even though Mazda gave it the most damn complicated sequential turbo system of all time, the AST exploding in two piece and killing coolant seals, FPD leaking and burning cars to the ground, wiring harnesses becoming so brittle by 70-80k miles leading to injector issues running the car lean, and of course every owner has to put a full exhaust on the car asap without removing the boost restrictor pills to the wastegate and not willing to spend $50.00 on a boost gauge to see what is really going on.

Whatever, it keeps the business coming in the doors

 

ill like to see how you would react if car goes down after a month of driving it, and look at 13 thousand dollars go down the drain if you dont fix it! ill lik for you to pull that money out. i just came home from iraq, to deal with my rx that went down not even after a month of driving! the seller didnt mention anything about changing the belt.
he said he changed everything and its good to go. next thing you know the belt snaps while in was on the highway going to base.

 

well if you call Mazda at their parts department they'll tell you. they told me they dont do re-mans anymore. do to the fact that the bad engines that go back to then are so jacked up that they are re building alot less engines as before. from wut they told me they are still making new engines do to the fact that we will always be in need for it.
plus the new engine comes with warranty.

 

People like this just irritate me.... THEY break something and then try to blame thier issues, problems, shortcoming, ignorance, stupidity (call it what you will) on someone else. No wonder why this country and a good portion of the world is in trouble right now. Few willing to own up to thier mistakes and just say, "Man that sucks, but it was my fault."

YOU broke the car just like stated above. You drove it into an overheating situation and if you did any research on here first you would have found that the stock temp gauge basically reads, "cold", "you are ok" and "time for a rebuild".



i did man up to mine!
its was an idea about the lemon law. why pay if you dont have to? nobody said **** when bill gates asked the city to pay for his bridge over the highway to his Microsoft head quarters.
and he is what?, the 2nd or 3rd riches man in the world!?

 

seriously, i can't understand a word you are trying to say. please take a minute to formulate sentences that we can actually read. like someone said to you on this forum once already, "please get your fingers out of your *** and learn to type. hoodrat / ebonics is not appreciated on this forum." and don't give me that "it's new york slang"-excuse like you said before.

anyway, i bought my current FD sight-unseen off ebay with only 29k original miles on it. right after the car was delivered, i found out it needed a rebuild. you have to anticipate for things like this when buying a 15 year old sports car.

i remember you. just a couple of months ago i posted a reply in your thread. you said:

and i said:

saw this one coming...lol

sell the FD and get yourself a honda. should have stuck with civic's in the first place.

 

I'm not asking you to believe but I know what I had. It is rare but it does happens. I don't beat on my cars and treat them with care. I was the second owner of the car. The car was owned by a family member and I know for a fact that he never replaced the motor. I didn't say the compression was on par by the time it got tore down though, but it was pretty even across the board between 77-80 psi. That on my book isn't bad for a car with 202k miles on an original motor. BTW my FB has original motor also and it has over 200k on it with good compression. There are other on here that have high mileage on original motors.

 

I'll tell you how I felt. I drove mine for 3 months and overheated it being a dumb **** like you did. I've spent...well...a few bucks fixing it since then, but I'd like to say that I learned from it. And I NEVER wanted to blame the previous owner for having a stock AST on the car. That was my fault, I should have known better and done my homework/maintenance.

You, sir, fail. Hard.

 

ha ha!
ill stay with my rx. its a lesson learn and i know theres many more to come. im learning little by little. im not giving up....

 

Please do.

 

true i did.
but i bet it wouldn't happen again. lol
your right i should of did homework.
im not blaming him. im just saying.
i jacked up.

 

The only comment I have here is to say why did you spend $5k on a Brand New Motor? Makes absolutely no sense. You're close enough to IRP that you should've taken your car there to have it fully diagnosed. It's still possible you have other issues that you aren't even aware of.


Buying a New motor just seems like a bandage and an expensive one at that. I still think you should have an experienced rotary tech completely go through your car so that you don't blow another engine. Just my thoughts...

 

What...you think your the only one who's ever bought a used car and had buyer's remorse because it broke down? YOU broke it. It's unfortunate, but NOT the previous owners responsibility.
And you didn't answer my question. How long do you think the previous owner should warranty your "jack up"?

 

well the lemon law stats the previous owner should repair the car if it breaks down before 3000 miles or 2 months. but only
dealers

 

thanks
ill do just that

 

y dont u show some engine bay pix of the car? let see what you have. one thing to remember is the FD is a money pit. so you will spend more and more later one. 5k engine = nothing. you will spend more when you find out the other problem..it will go on and on. and since you are at it, replace all your vacuum hose and coolant hose. and maybe single turbos? keep in mind, FD is totally different with HONDA!! you can drive the **** about of the honda, and do stupid stuff to it. but FD = more respect and times, and well taken care off. so welcome to hell !. and have fun working on your engine. sound like you have alot of stuff to learn and Search around.

 

OP is a ******* train wreck...

That is all.