i have a 1993 fd and i am thinking in removed the complete ABS sistem for weight saving and more room in my engine
what you think guys of this, should i removed or keep it
af anyone has removed let me knowyour opinion

 

For street use, keep it.

For track use, dump it.

 

what are you doing with the car? is this some racers dream? or is this car an ACTUAL track machine? id say you may wanna keep it if your just wanting all the locals to think youre a supercool racecar driver, yo!!!

 

 

Couldn't have said it better!

 

Is it prohibited on the track?

Your stopping time from 60 will jump 40'. The best drivers in world can't come close to the stoping power of ABS. Tracktion control is another matter the best drivers can best that system.

 

whell the idea cross my mind because i am lightening the car i already have cf hood cf trunk and fiber glass fenders and someone told me that remove the ABS will save as much as 50 pounds,i dpont know wht else to remove,i know that removing the abs will deadly to brake times on the street

but just asking

 

Getting aftermarket seats will save you 50 lbs and not reduce safety. Eliminating the ABS to save the ~35 lbs on a non-track only car is just stupid IMO.

 

already have aftermarket seat a pair of recaro and save a lot more than that but im looking to remove all the pieces that ia can to reduce weight,i think remving the abs will be definetly a bad idea.
but i dont know what else to remove

 

35lbs!

Probably more like 15lbs max.

I agree otherwise, dumping the ABS is stupid.

 

Just an off-the-cuff guess.

I have seen figures listed for other cars showing the complete ABS system (including additional piping, wheel speed sensors, and computer unit) weighing in at about 40 lbs.

 

The sensors and extra piping probably weigh 1-2lb. Pretty much all the weight is the pump itself.

 

keep it on!

 

Hrmm , if you want to loose the weight , remove the air pump , interior , stereo , speakers .. ect...

but removing ABS is a bad idea imo.

 

50 lbs ??? With my R2 seats at 26 lbs each I did not save much going with kelvar shells and alum. brackets ... to have saved 50lbs I would have needed to use foam pads for seats.

 

You are right, I misremembered the weight -- OEM leather seats weigh ~28 lbs without rails. So going with a fiberglass or c/f racing shell would probably only save ~26-28 lbs, not 50.

 

speaking of weight savings, how many people remove the spare tire to save weight? i do in my other cars but haven't yet in this one

 

You will save around 28lbs getting rid of the seats, I removed my ABS for a few reasons. But if you wanted to be slick about it relocate it to inside the car, it's been done before.

 

At the track, yes both for weight and saftey but on road why both.

 

ABS does not make you stop any sooner, it allows you to keep control. It's been proven over and over a good driver without ABS will stop shorter or the same as a ABS equipped car.

 

Proven by tests of typical drivers that a) do not engage ABS or b) continue to try to pump brake .. ????

On an ideal surface with an ideal weight distribution between tires, with ideal near lock-up driver control, yes, braking distance w/o abs may be near equal or perhaps sometimes shorter due to a great driver maximizing braking g's by holding at near but never at full lockup versus ABS's on-release pattern. HOWEVER when are things ideal; your weakest tire grip limits braking and can be caused by wheel unloading, from turnin, bump, load transfer from braking etc or surface grip due to roughness, pavement type, moisture, tar, oil, dirt etc. ..... I will take the ABS any day.

The only proven shorter stopping distance wilthout ABS is in snow and gravel; snow not ice, rain, or dry but snow or gravel that builds up in front of a locked wheel.

 

BS. Please post the tests including the testing conditions. On dry or wet pavement, an ABS-equipped car will stop faster, period. In dusty conditions, dirt, or snow, non-ABS will stop faster due the locked tires developing a wedge of material.

In every racing series that allows the use of ABS, every last car runs it.

 

Thanks rynberg, for saying it much more succinctly

 

There was a good ABS discussion a few months ago:

https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/abs-removal-394733/



Here's one of the best points:


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Here's why a good ABS system will out brake a man every time: