about to take engine out. any info I need
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about to take engine out. any info I need
Iam about to take the engine out of my fd so I can send it out to be rebuilt. I plan on going non sequential and running a PFC after the rebuild so Iam not worrying about all those vaccum lines. but other then that any words from the wise?
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I plan on removing everything off the engine all manifolds everything. can this be done with the engine still in the car??. Also I plan on removing the power stearing and AC completely. is there a special tool I need to remove the power steering pump and assembly??
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Originally posted by Ball joint
I plan on removing everything off the engine all manifolds everything. can this be done with the engine still in the car??. Also I plan on removing the power stearing and AC completely. is there a special tool I need to remove the power steering pump and assembly??
I plan on removing everything off the engine all manifolds everything. can this be done with the engine still in the car??. Also I plan on removing the power stearing and AC completely. is there a special tool I need to remove the power steering pump and assembly??
As for special tools, you don't really need any. Airtools will make the job easier though if you got 'em.
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I'm not sure you can pull the motor out of the car AFTER you've removed the manifolds because that is where the rear lift hook is connected. There may be another place to connect it to, but I'm not aware of it.
I pulled mine with the turbos and downpipe still on. It's much easier to get at these items when the motor is out of the car and they don't really impede the removal process.
Mahjik is right, you can take most of the car apart with a 10, 12, and 14mm. However, you will need a very large socked for the flywheel nut. I bought a flywheel lock from Mazdatrix. It cost around $17 and made removing the flywheel much eaiser.
I pulled mine with the turbos and downpipe still on. It's much easier to get at these items when the motor is out of the car and they don't really impede the removal process.
Mahjik is right, you can take most of the car apart with a 10, 12, and 14mm. However, you will need a very large socked for the flywheel nut. I bought a flywheel lock from Mazdatrix. It cost around $17 and made removing the flywheel much eaiser.
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Originally posted by CCarlisi
I'm not sure you can pull the motor out of the car AFTER you've removed the manifolds because that is where the rear lift hook is connected. There may be another place to connect it to, but I'm not aware of it.
I'm not sure you can pull the motor out of the car AFTER you've removed the manifolds because that is where the rear lift hook is connected. There may be another place to connect it to, but I'm not aware of it.
Ball joint,
Here's a picture from an engine pull we did for a local owner a little over a month ago. You can see that pretty much everything is still on the motor:
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/ho...3/MVC-004F.JPG
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the exhaust manifold bolts will work and just find one one the front i mean with everthing off the engine is like 200lbs. but damn it is so much easier to leave it on and remove it from the engine out of the car. i prefer to do it the book way and pull the harness throught the firewall, fwiw, esp if you are seq or colse to stock. be careful with disconnecting the ac lines. first it is awful for the ozone layer to vent R12 and it will spay mineral oil and **** everwhere. i am with ccarlisi and mahjik take it as a unit. get a big *** breaker bar or a good impact gun for the flywheel nut. GL.
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should I pull the tranny with the engine? I mean is it hard to just unbolt the tranny from the engine then pull it? BTW my **** is auto and I really dont want to screw with all that crap.
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should I pull the tranny with the engine? I mean is it hard to just unbolt the tranny from the engine then pull it? BTW my **** is auto and I really dont want to screw with all that crap.
should I pull the tranny with the engine? I mean is it hard to just unbolt the tranny from the engine then pull it? BTW my **** is auto and I really dont want to screw with all that crap.
I've never pulled an auto tranny, so I'm not sure if it's any easier to separate the tranny while it's outside the car like the manual.
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Originally posted by Mahjik
I would pull the tranny with the engine. Some of the bolts on the bell housing are a pain to get to while the engine/tranny are installed.
I've never pulled an auto tranny, so I'm not sure if it's any easier to separate the tranny while it's outside the car like the manual.
I would pull the tranny with the engine. Some of the bolts on the bell housing are a pain to get to while the engine/tranny are installed.
I've never pulled an auto tranny, so I'm not sure if it's any easier to separate the tranny while it's outside the car like the manual.
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Originally posted by Ball joint
can you get to the bolts? or are they impossible to get to
can you get to the bolts? or are they impossible to get to
Look between the UIM and the firewall. If want to jam your hand between there to twist out some screws, go ahead. It's much easier if you pull the tranny with the engine, IMO.
I suppose, you could pull the UIM, separated the tranny (without the UIM in the way, you'll have good access to the upper bell housing bolts), then put the UIM back on so you can pull the engine (only to pull the UIM off, again). Too much work for little gain for me.
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I've been working on pulling my motor too. I have been planning on leaving the tranny in the car (5speed). I have also taken off the UIM and unplugged all the connectors. I didn't think about pulling the whole harness through the firewall.
I was just looking at it today thinking,
'how am I going lift out the engine without the lift hooks?'
I was just looking at it today thinking,
'how am I going lift out the engine without the lift hooks?'
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Originally posted by BOTTLEFED
I've been working on pulling my motor too. I have been planning on leaving the tranny in the car (5speed). I have also taken off the UIM and unplugged all the connectors. I didn't think about pulling the whole harness through the firewall.
I was just looking at it today thinking,
'how am I going lift out the engine without the lift hooks?'
I've been working on pulling my motor too. I have been planning on leaving the tranny in the car (5speed). I have also taken off the UIM and unplugged all the connectors. I didn't think about pulling the whole harness through the firewall.
I was just looking at it today thinking,
'how am I going lift out the engine without the lift hooks?'
On the drivers side, just undo the two big grey plugs near the strut tower, also unbolt the single power cable that powers the fuse box. Both harness go with the motor. It is realitively simple to get the motor and trans out of the car in 4 hrs. I've done it in less than 2 hrs.
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If you pull the motor w/o the tranny but w the harness (this is getting complicated) remember to disconnect the plugs connected to the transmission.
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WOW! 2hrs. Next time I'll just pay you to come over here to Idaho to do it for me.
I guess I'll pull the tranny with the motor, since that is what everyone is saying.
I was also looking at the P/S and A/C lines. Where is the best place to disconnect these?
Sorry for highjacking your thread Ball joint, I have been meaning to post some ??, but thought this might help us both.
I guess I'll pull the tranny with the motor, since that is what everyone is saying.
I was also looking at the P/S and A/C lines. Where is the best place to disconnect these?
Sorry for highjacking your thread Ball joint, I have been meaning to post some ??, but thought this might help us both.
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Originally posted by BOTTLEFED
WOW! 2hrs. Next time I'll just pay you to come over here to Idaho to do it for me.
I guess I'll pull the tranny with the motor, since that is what everyone is saying.
I was also looking at the P/S and A/C lines. Where is the best place to disconnect these?
Sorry for highjacking your thread Ball joint, I have been meaning to post some ??, but thought this might help us both.
WOW! 2hrs. Next time I'll just pay you to come over here to Idaho to do it for me.
I guess I'll pull the tranny with the motor, since that is what everyone is saying.
I was also looking at the P/S and A/C lines. Where is the best place to disconnect these?
Sorry for highjacking your thread Ball joint, I have been meaning to post some ??, but thought this might help us both.
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All of you thinking of pulling your motor should get the video from rotaryaviation.com, every question posted here is answered in the video. It also covers pulling an auto tranny, its a bit more complicated.
PS, pull the harness with the motor. Just imagine trying to reconnect everything with the motor back in. Its not possible. Well maybe but I would shoot myself before I got if finished. Pull everything as a unit. Who cares thats its heavier, you do have a lift right? lol, your not using the old 5 friends and a blanket under the motor trick are you? Exactly, pull everything in one easy step. Tranny, Motor, Harness, and all the other **** strapped on to the motor.
PS, pull the harness with the motor. Just imagine trying to reconnect everything with the motor back in. Its not possible. Well maybe but I would shoot myself before I got if finished. Pull everything as a unit. Who cares thats its heavier, you do have a lift right? lol, your not using the old 5 friends and a blanket under the motor trick are you? Exactly, pull everything in one easy step. Tranny, Motor, Harness, and all the other **** strapped on to the motor.
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See now iam wondering once I pull the motor with everything on it when I send it out to RX7 store to be rebuilt should I just leave all that crap on or should I strip the motor down to bar engine??
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