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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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im assuming you are talking about the 96+ RZ-spec Recaro seats.

they are not available through Recaro, only Mazda Japan. they run upwards of $2500 a seat.
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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What does a Rikki mean
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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rikki racer = riceboy basically
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Holy moly!! 2500 a seat!!! Man and I thought the recaro srd's from the type r hondas were expensive! How much lighter than ours are they?
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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I did a good amount of research on this subject... I contacted Recaro & several resellers. The best answer I got was from Corksport. They said that they could get them, but they HAVE to come from Japan & it's nearly impossible to get a used set (because they are in such high demand in Japan - used sets very rarely leave the country). I may still have the e-mail from them (I don't feel like looking for it right now) - I think JoeD's estimate was conservative.

edit: ok, I searched the mail, here's the first quote from corksport:
The seat is a Recaro SPG for the Japanese market. We can get the seats newfor about $3400 a side from Mazda in Japan which is insane for a seat. We can also get SPG seats from a Japanese recaro dealer. Only downside is the SPG with brackets is $1400 each.

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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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Would the brackets work with Recaro SRD's? I'd like to know since I'm looking to get a pair and haven't found any brackets for 'em yet.
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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Could someone post a pic of what the '99 seats look like? I dont think Ive ever seen them
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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http://www.rx-7.mazda.co.jp/index.html
click on the links on the right side until you find the interior page.
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 08:34 PM
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BrianK dude you gotta hook me up w/ the info on brackets. Should I email corksport?
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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damn... for that price i'd rather get a nice set of bride buckets...
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by noon
Could someone post a pic of what the '99 seats look like? I dont think Ive ever seen them
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FavBandDMB: You can e-mail corksport... I would imagine that anyone that is a Recaro reseller would know what to do about brackets. It's pretty common that you have to have brackets made for the FD - there were so few produced and the space for the seat is so small that most seat makers didn't make brackets for it.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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Thanks. Ill email corksport, and I guess I have to another 80-90 searches to find out the same info. Honestly I just dont think I can make the brackets by myself. Ive been to www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7 and www.iluvmyrx7.com I guess Im just too lazy. Thanks for the info
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by JoeD
im assuming you are talking about the 96+ RZ-spec Recaro seats.
From the '92 RZ thru the 98 RZ, the seats were essentially identical. It was only the 2000 RZ that had the red Recaro's while previous year RZ's were black. Looks like each seat saved about 5.4kg of weight.

I've thought about getting one myself and figured out how to do it for under $1500 w/rails. Not cheap but much better considering the other prices people have quoted.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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RECARO

Ahhh, recaro seats in an FD, A nice idea in theory, however, let me tell you what I have found out from my own presonal RECARO venture.

#1. Don't know mych about the stock RECARO Buckets that are coming out on the new FD's in Japan like the RZ and so fourth, however, I would assume that you could get them from somplace like corksport but, I imagine the pricing that was quoted in this thread earlier is really pretty correct however if you really had money to burn im sure the seats and rails would be a mazda Japan oem Item.

#2. Now lets talk about the RECARO SPG Bucket race seat. IT IS NOT THE SAME SEAT AS THE RECARO BUCKETS THAT COME IN THE STOCK FD"S IN JAPAN!! The shoulder bolsters are wider (they will hit the door) and you cannot get a set of seat rails that will just bolt into the FD and work great. There are a couple of options for putting those seats in an FD, Option 1 is to buy Bride seat rails from Japan made for they're bucket seats, they offer forward and backward adjustment (They fit in a FD w/ RECARO SPG fine), but, you will get a completley fucked up driving position!, you will be sitting high because of the back and fourth sliding mechanism under the seat pushes it up too high and the top of the seat damn near hits the roof of the car. The other option is to make your own (never done it- dont want to), But Rob Robinette did it and it seemed to work for him. And finally you can do what I did and buy a Nielex seat bracket from Japan. These bolt to the seat and then bolt straight to the floor. They lower the seat considerably and give you and awesome driving position but, you will not be able to move the seat back and fourth (the door will still hit the bolster on the seat a bit- not too big of a deal) but, when all is said and done expect to spend around $400.00 just for the seat rail and another $675.00 to $750.00 for the RECARO SPG.

#3. And finally... The absolutley georgeous wonderful RECARO SRD seat. The friggin bad *** seat that should be able to fit in the RX7. NOT!!! **** I wish those seats would fit in a FD! But, from all the measurments and people I have talked to you have to squeeze them in and I don't know anywhere in the US that you can get a rail and slider that will make that seat fit. In fact those are the seats that I wanted sooooo bad, but, could not find a way to make them work. Apparently there is a lot of door interference. I have seen them in FD's in Japan but, I don't know how they made them work. I know that RECARO markets the SRD in Japan as different types like the SRII, SRIII, and SRIV, now I am thinking that maybe some of those variations of the SRD are a bit smaller then the ones we get in the US so maybe that is it. When you do look at Japanese mags and you happen to see a SRD seat in those cars they do kind of look crammed in. If anyone knows anything about the SRD and the FD3S I would love to hear about it because I would get rid of my SPG in a hot second to get a set of SRD's in my car that fit correctly.

If anyone had any info I would love to hear it!
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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So what is the lightest, OEM type seat we can fit in? Some one should make brackects, they could make a million. Just like sleek lights and stuff, I love my stock seats but would kill for a nice set of RZ Recaro's or Bride seats.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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OMFG those seats are beautiful!
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by the_glass_man
So what is the lightest, OEM type seat we can fit in? Some one should make brackects, they could make a million. Just like sleek lights and stuff, I love my stock seats but would kill for a nice set of RZ Recaro's or Bride seats.
I think alot of why there is not a set available (at least in the US) is that the seat belt receiver is attached to the OEM seat rail. Its a intergal part of the seat rail.

From the prospective of seat manufacturers like Sparco et al, the 3rd gen market is much too small to invest in the R&D to develope a seat rail/safety belt receiver system - because should it fail in an accident, they would be very liable.

Tinkering with my Sparco Roadster install, that seat belt receiver sticks up and does not allow you to move the seat over more towards the center of the car (thus clearing the side bolster/door panel).

The solution is to cut the receiver off and figure another way to mount it, or ditch it all together and go with racing harness. Either solution is out of the question from a liability stand point for a seat/rail manufacturer.

Therefore, the burden is placed on a seat manufacturer to develope a seat that fits the OEM seat rail/safety belt receiver, and clear the door panels - such as Recaro did. Too bad that that particular seat is not available outside the OEM parts system.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 08:13 PM
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To answer the srd question. I was going to buy srds for my del sol since the type rs in japan have them and look awesome I wanted them. Now the us srd is not the same as the japaneese or the euro. There in fact 3 variations. I will briefly explain.

us srd
-bigger than jap and euro in side length height and width (not much but still bigger)
-uses cheap fabric all over seat
-has the name "reacaro" in a different spot.
-has two height adjustments rather than one

euro (getting better)
-same size as jap spec
-has recaro in upper portion of seat like us version
-covered completely in one type of cloth
-has one height adjustment

jap spec
-Has recaro on the "lower" position
-has the all famous two tone cloth (red suede on sides and special type r cloth insert down the middle)
-has one height adjustment ****
-sits lower in car
-quick adjust slider mechanism
-smaller than us spec

now I know they make brakets for theese seat in hondas but i have no idea about the fd
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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dunno guys when I get enough $ i'm prol gonna get the re seats that came to my attention when turbo published the orange widebody rx7. i think its 900 a set
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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Just so you know, the RE seats are made by corbeau which are MUCH cheaper for the exact same thing...and I believe they are $900/seat. Of course with the corbeau you loose the bragging rights

also the recaros on the RZ editions have lower bottom bolsters so they are easier to get in/out than the SPG. And yes they are infact about $1700/seat from the dealer in Japan.

the closest seat to the RZ ones are the Sparco Roadsters


David
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