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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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5th gear syncro replacement cost

Well #$*&* Missed third today, and went right to fifth! #$*(& Now the I get about 2 gear teeth worth of grinding when I get into 5th from 4th. It will go away if I double clutch of course. But I was wondering if any one here had a ball park of the cost to get the 5th gear syncro replaced.

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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The synchro itself is less than $30 but you need to pull the transmision apart.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Wow that is actully mildly comforting. Sending an email to my mechanic too, to see what the damage($) will be.

Thanks for the quick response.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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I get $ 75 to $ 100 to clean the tranny and replace the ring .
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Having the Garfinkle engine torque brace will help to keep the shifter in place so you will not miss a gear .
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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mike lowe (rx7 guy) at lowe's automotive in sarasota, FL charged me $800 to replace my 5th gear syncro and throw on a new clutch (that i supplied).

i think i paid too much, but some people have told me that's about right.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Thats on the expensive side. The transmision r/r is about 5 years per the mazda book. I usually add about 1/2 an hour if I'm replacing the clutch/flywheel/pilot bearing as well.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Thats on the expensive side. The transmision r/r is about 5 years per the mazda book. I usually add about 1/2 an hour if I'm replacing the clutch/flywheel/pilot bearing as well.

?????????? How much at $75 an hour? LOL
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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So what should it run me to have the syncro replaced with labor etc.

My mechanic found a rebuilt transmission for 2100, but that seems like a bit much.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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So what should it run me to have the syncro replaced with labor etc.

My mechanic found a rebuilt transmission for 2100, but that seems like a bit much.
uh ya no kidding.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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My 5th was grinding also. Turns out when the tranny was opened I also needed the actual 5th gear and the slider. Ordered the parts from Ray under $270 and labor was another $600. Seems cheap at like $20 for synchro only when the whole job can end up costing you just under a grand.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by theorie
mike lowe (rx7 guy) at lowe's automotive in sarasota, FL charged me $800 to replace my 5th gear syncro and throw on a new clutch (that i supplied).

i think i paid too much, but some people have told me that's about right.
That's a good deal. Here it's $1300CAD just to R&R a clutch (no messing with the tranny). Shop rates are around 90-100 CAD
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 03:37 AM
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So if the tranny is out, about how long does it take to R&R it, again if it is already out and ready to be worked on? Just curious as I have just a slightly notchy 2nd gear at low rmps and want to address it before it goes back in.
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 04:04 AM
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The most laborious part is taking the tranny out. If you bring the tranny to the shop, it'll be easy, quicker, and cheaper, however, if you bring the car to the shop to drop the tranny $800 is the going rate around the SF Bay Area.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Well I finally got my car to rotorsports on el camino. Now I am wondering if there are and good mods that will help prevent this from happening again??
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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my mech told me he charges 700 to rebuilt the tranny
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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1) Replacing 5th synchro with the tranny out of the car is a couple hundred bucks.

2a) Install the updated select spindle ($70) to stiffen the spring on 5/R and help avoid missing 3rd. 2b) Don't screw up shifting.

3) Rebuilding a tranny is a variable cost. It depends on how strict the rebuilder is about accepting the hard parts. Changing bearings and seals is not enough in many cases. With the current price of $600-700 for a low mileage JDM tranny, spending $2000 to fully rebuild a tranny can be hard to justify.

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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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dgeesaman,

Is there any company out there that offers rebuilt tranny's that includes Mazda upgrades such as the infamous 5th gear syncro? If I'm not mistaken this was a recall item.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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5th synchro was not a recalled item. It was updated and I believe a TSB was issued.

Any tranny rebuilder can do the job. Rotary shops like Pineapple, KD Rotary, Pettit, etc will know the updates and be able to speak intelligently about your options.

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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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I also always install the updated shift select spindle as it makes it harder to miss 3rd gear and hit 5th by mistake.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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do this your self if you can..this is a real good simple first time transmision job..
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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It cost me about $1000 to have it done for me. That was a few years ago.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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sorry if this sounds retarded, but what would happen if you just kept driving your car with the syncro problem?
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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You'd have noisy shifts going to 5th gear.

Or you can double-clutch and skip fixing it indefinitely.

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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by _ToFu_
sorry if this sounds retarded, but what would happen if you just kept driving your car with the syncro problem?
The the syncro could break for good, get stuck in the other gears, damaging them, even getting jammed in the other gears, causing the car to come to a screeching stop.
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