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Old 04-05-04, 08:08 PM
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5th gear synchro

I was just thinking the other day, after reading here every so often about the synchro, how lucky I was to not have that problem....................we'll, its here. I have a minor grinding going into fifth. If i wait a couple of seconds before releasing the clutch, its fine. How bad does it have to get before I need to fix it?
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mine is pretty bad, i just double clutch it every time before 5th now and it goes in nicely
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i dont mine when i replaced my clutch, its actully not that hard of a job, it was the first time i broke a tranny apart, once you get to bearing i recommend that u bring it to a shop to get it pulled other than that straight forward. U have to **** up bad no to no how to put it back together.
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$15 bucks ill mail a good synchro out for you net day air
Old 04-06-04, 12:50 AM
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The longer you grind it the more metal is going to float in your tranny. Mine was like that for about 1k miles and I replaced all my tranny bearings due to the metal scoring in the bearings. That added about 500 to the cost of the r&r.
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scratchjunkie, I'll take that deal...You don't even have to use next day air. Let me know
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Broken 5th gear synchro is the harbinger of future input and main shaft bearings that WILL fail.

If it just started doing it, fix it ASAP.
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can you still get the synchro from mazda? mine is doing it as well.
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Contact Ray @ Malloy Mazda (888)533-3400 I got my upgraded/improved synchro and spindle for only $56!!! Also, here is an easy how-to guide, I'm actually ripping the tranny apart to do it tomorrow:
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/h...ro/synchro.html

I also heard from many first-hand users of that link that said the job was really easy with the help of that link. The how-to maker is unknown.

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Old 04-06-04, 09:30 AM
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you should replace the synhro before you break the gear.
Old 04-06-04, 10:33 AM
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link dont work.
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I couldn't get the link to work either. The job is pretty simple by just following the shop manual.
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Yeah, I would recomend getting cracked or broken synchro's fixed ASAP, because I think my tranny is screwed. It grinds in 5th badly but also seems like it has a load on it when pushing it in neutral. So I think I'm gonna need a tranny rebuild.
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Sorry about that...here's the working link:
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/ho...o/synchro.html
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And BTW, no, Mahjik did not make those instructions...He just came across them one day (a while ago) and he doesn't remember/couldn't find who it originated from, so he's just hosting it on his web site.

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Do the replacement ASAP!!! ANY loose things (syncro parts) could lodge between gears and any time and take out the whole tranny case.
Be sure to also replace the weak *** pall on the shifter housing that caused the problem in the first place. the factory replaced the original with a beefed up unit to add more resistance to the shifter trying to jump the gate on a fast shift from second to third..
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I've always have 5 gear syncro.
Just shift above 3 and a half to 4 thousand RPM.
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yea if you blip the throttle it won't grind, but if you just replace a $60 synchro you don't have to worry at all. i guess doing the synchro is harder for some people than other, but i am definitely gonna replace mine.
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I created that write up last year. Sorry for the crappy quality!
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does anyone know the part #s?
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What's the cost that shops charge to replace the synchro, just for labor?
Old 04-15-04, 09:31 AM
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bump - anyone know the cost of labor or has anyone paid a shop to do it?
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1200 for r&r tranny brearing and clutch
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holy crap...$1200 to r&R a 20.10 part :/
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