is the 3rd gen a safe car???
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is the 3rd gen a safe car???
ok, this was a very shocking pic that i saw at the auction we get our car's from:

What do you think happened??? this makes me think twice about speeding!!
What do you think happened??? this makes me think twice about speeding!!
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Originally Posted by scratchjunkie
that is scary.
what's scary is that these auction happen once a week and at any given time, there is almost always more than 5 fd's there@! at this rate, there wont be any left in a few years!!
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Originally Posted by rzograbian
well, supra's arent any safer given the fact that they are bigger:
Originally Posted by gleangonzalez
what mods are done to those cars? Do you know if the motors are still good?
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i have to go look at them. i buy these cars and part them out. they only have like 5 pics of every car. you have to take a look at the cars in person and you still wont know if the motor is good. most of the time, when the car is in a collision, they are still good motors but have been sitting for about 3 months before they come to auction. the accident happens and the insurance agent has to come and access the damage. then they salvage it and it takes a few months until the process the title as a "salvage" so the auction can sell them.
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Originally Posted by Kento
No car is actually "safer". Any accident can wad even a Volvo or hulking SUV, and it's always a roll of the dice. Unless you're thinking you'll be in the market for an FD sometime in the future, keep your high speed stuff for the track and your wits about you on the street, and you really don't have too much to worry about as far as the FD's "safety".
im with you there. i had my fd since i was 16 and im 18 now. so far, no accidents and i have gotten no speeding tickets too!! only BS front plate tickets !!
of course fd's are not safe cars. they weigh 2800 +/- lbs. the grey haired clown from the insurance institute can get on tv and tell you how your suv is a death trap, but after all the air bags and crumple zones and seat belts and everything else, the laws of physics still rule. you hit most cars/objects with your fd at any speed and you're going to crush the thing. you hit the average suv (something like an explorer) with your fd and in most cases your car will look like a crumpled can. there is a reason these cars don't weigh much and it's not because of the extra re-enforcements they installed in the chasis. remember, that in the equation for force, mass is a factor. the greater the mass, the greater the force, the more your 7 gets crushed.
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man. some of those pics are scary... I wrecked one @ 70 mph on the interstate (the speed limit). I got cut off by a 18 wheeler. spun threw the median and rode into the trees. In the hospital for 2 weeks ! Just be alert and wear your seatbelts dammit!! If I did not have mine on I would not be here to write this! Or to drive another FD!! Be f-cking careful! Save the high performance for the track!
Originally Posted by Kento
No car is actually "safer".
However, we're not talking about typical accidents here. We're talking about jackasses treating the local streets and highways like their private playground, and when you lose control of any car at 100+ mph, it's going to look like a crumpled aluminum can when you're done.
I had an accident in my first FD; An old man ran a red light, and hit me doing about 35 in a Buick, just in front of the driver's door. Spun me around, and totalled the car. I had no injuries, the windshield didn't break, and both doors opened. The car is very strong.
For these cars to turn out that way . . . shows that The FD is becoming
more and more rare! So all of our working fd are going up in worth!
But its still sad, also what haunts me is how the people are that were
drivng these wrecked machines!
JP
more and more rare! So all of our working fd are going up in worth!

But its still sad, also what haunts me is how the people are that were
drivng these wrecked machines!
JP
That scares the **** out of me. I will definitely slow down some more. I also want to mention that while I rarely let my wife drive an FD by herself I feel 100% confident letting her putt putt around in her 8. The RX8 has 8 air bags and a 4 star safety rating. In addintion, I recently saw a sitting RX8 get smashed by a speeding Isuzu truck. Truck spun around ang got totalled, front beyond recognition, while the RX8 lost its bumper and scooted forward some. I encourage you guys to research RX8 accidents. The 8 is a slow tank with stunning looks and amazing handling, and a ROTARY ENGINE. I personally prefer the FD, with my defensive driving by the grace of God I have been able to keep from turning into ground meat so far.
Originally Posted by legal-z
of course fd's are not safe cars. they weigh 2800 +/- lbs. the grey haired clown from the insurance institute can get on tv and tell you how your suv is a death trap, but after all the air bags and crumple zones and seat belts and everything else, the laws of physics still rule. you hit most cars/objects with your fd at any speed and you're going to crush the thing. you hit the average suv (something like an explorer) with your fd and in most cases your car will look like a crumpled can. there is a reason these cars don't weigh much and it's not because of the extra re-enforcements they installed in the chasis. remember, that in the equation for force, mass is a factor. the greater the mass, the greater the force, the more your 7 gets crushed.
FDs are not the safest cars out there, but for a 2800lb vehicle they do pretty well. They crumple like crazy, which is good for most accidents as far as survival rate, but the repair costs are extremely high. That's the cost of driving a car that could save your life in an extreme wreck.
SUVs are safe for the occupants when striking a car, but have nauseatingly high death rates for the occupants of the other car, especially heavy and lifted SUVs/pickups. (They tend to miss the crumple zones and run right through the passenger cabin). SUVs are very dangerous to the occupants when striking stationary objects, or when they roll over. The cabins are not strong enough to protect in rollovers, and they have no crumple zones when they strike a tree or concrete barrier to cushion the blow for the occupants. SUVs also jump guardrails with surprising frequency because the ground clearance of taller and lifted models are just too high for the existing highway system (commercial trucks actually have lower bumpers that are more compatible).
These are the reasons why SUVs rate low on insurance company safety lists, although they are actually worse than insurance companies will admit. They spread this cost over their car owners since SUV owners are some of their most profitable and prized customers (rich, middle-age, sububanites) with large policies.
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