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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:06 AM
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Question 330-360rwhp FD?...

Well i waz just curious To what a 330-360 rwhp FD could stack up against from say a 80 mph roll or even a 40 rolling start...

How would it also Fair against a BPU+++ supra (about 430-460rwhp)
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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BPU Supras..... careful there, that's 100 more hp than that kind of FD would be pushing. I wouldn't risk it unless there's a big difference in drivers, but that's not likely for someone who has a BPU. Part of the off line difference would be calculated through how much rubber you have on the road. The FD can easily be considered under-rubbered in its stock form. I think I've made more use of the traction control in that car than any other I've driven. The Supra's got more rubber in stock form with another inch on the wheels. If you've got lots of nice, wide tread down on the road and you're up against a stock wheeled BPU, you may have some chance shooting off a little before. I really couldn't tell what would happen after that, though. There's a power- weight difference, but I couldn't figure it out off the top of my head. If I were you, I wouldn't put money down for a race until you know for sure. I'd deffinitely drop cash if you've got the same power figures or greater than a Supra and enough rubber on the road to handle it. Just be careful, that's a shady bet if the Supra's hiding something.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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I heard someone saying that you only need be within 100hp of a supra to keep even from a dig or low speed roll (40mph). Beyond 140Mph I'd say the Supra is goin be pulling on you so beware...

If you use the 7lbs = 1hp rule I believe the (-100hp) FD v/s the Supra (ie 330rwhp v/s 430rwhp) should stack up pretty close.

Supra = 3,400lbs (?)
FD = 2,700lbs (?)

(700lbs / (7lbs/hp)) == 100hp

anyone want to agree/disagree, fix any of my college math estimates?

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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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supra=more like 3600-3650lbs
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by purepsi
supra=more like 3600-3650lbs
no...its more like 3450-3480lbs:





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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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and the FD is more like 2800-2870lbs:



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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Wow JoeD, I think this is your best post so far.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 06:43 PM
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What nocab72 said sounds about right. That's what I've always been told. But there will be variations a little in both cars weights, because some mods have removing heavy stock parts and the aftermarket peices are almost always lighter. And some cars have a little "weight reduction" done..
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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Wow JoeD, I think this is your best post so far.


i am speechless!

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 09:09 AM
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Cool Do you know how to drive your car?

Just race the guy! If you're over 350hp, I'd definitely give it a shot. We all know that he's a got a 6 cylinder racing up against a 1.3 liter motor.

If you lose, then make your car faster or learn how to drive. If you keep up, the make your car faster and learn how to drive. If you win, then he/she needs to work on his/her driving. That's how it works, I think. good luck.

see ya,

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 09:47 AM
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It certainly sounds like the race will be a good one, video tape it for us all to see...

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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sorry just telling you what my supra buddy told me!!
he told me that everybody states 3400lbs but in the real world when everbody weighs in there cars its more like 3600lbs and more with a sound system!!!
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by purepsi
sorry just telling you what my supra buddy told me!!
he told me that everybody states 3400lbs but in the real world when everbody weighs in there cars its more like 3600lbs and more with a sound system!!!
Another thing. That one in the article appears to be a hardtop (RARE). Lighter and a tighter chasis
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by MakoDHardie
...The FD can easily be considered under-rubbered in its stock form. I think I've made more use of the traction control in that car than any other I've driven. The Supra's got more rubber in stock form with another inch on the wheels. ...
The FD does not have traction control. The Supra has 9.5" wide rear wheels and the RX-7 has 8" wide wheels - the difference is 1.5".

And don't forget to add a driver for the HP-to-weight comparisons, it diminishes the RX-7's position a little (as the driver is a bigger percentage of the total weight on a lighter car).

-Max

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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hehe, I'll drive the car for you, I weight in about 150lbs.

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