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Old 08-05-09, 08:29 AM
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PA 2 BOV's

Is there any reason that I would need my Apexi bov and a stock bov to dump all the air needed? When I bought the car that's what the guy told me.... Here's a list of mods, just trying to work some small bugs out.

Single turbo conversion
fresh rebuilt engine
13b-re- new housings
FD irons port matched to intake
apexi power fc with commander
half bridge ported
dual oil coolers
hks cast turbo manifold
hks 50mm wastegate
hks ssqv bov
Turbonetics 62-1 .96 a/r
2.75" intercooler pipping
greddy fmic
MSD 6a
derlin motor mount bushings
turbo 2 leading ignition coil
new 10mm racing spark plug wires+ spark plugs
fluidyne radiator
autometer gauges
fuel lab fpr
850cc primary
1680 secondarys
kgparts secondary rail
modified primary -8an bungs welded to it
all fuel line is all -8an ss line
earls fuel filter, 15 gallon fuel cell (have stock fuel tank also)
bosch 044 fuel pump
3" dp with recirculated wastegate back into exhaust
3" borla xr1 racing muffler as a midpipe 3" vibrant resonator
3" apexi n1 muffler
act clutch/heavy duty pressure plate/pro-lite flywheel
manual boost controller
Stance coilover gr+
6 point cusco bolt in roll cage only have main hoop and bars going to strut towers
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And, by the way... when the single conversion was done the stock blow off valve was scrapped.

So unless the person who sold you the car was lying about there being a single in there then the stock bov is gone anyway.
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Old 08-05-09, 08:55 AM
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phunny, i'm not sure if you're a troll or not, but you sure seem suspect.

you have 5 posts and they include:

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Where is the dipstick?

Just bought a 93 single turbo and I can't find the dipstick anywhere. Is it supposed to be in the oil fill tube?

Thanks
you have a single turbo car with two fuel tanks and you can't find the dipstick?

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Turbo manifolds really $1000????

Guys, I am shocked that at most sites I find a 13b turbo manifold cost $1000. Is this the normal price for a manifold? I think Im going to be SOL due to wanting a custom t6 mani with dual wg's.Rant over!
why are you asking how much a turbo manifold costs if you already "went single"...but now you're telling us that you bought the car already single'd...get your story straight.

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Going single, what else do I need?
I went with a fuel cell, just for safety's sake.
so wait, you have the stock fuel tank + a 15 gal fuel cell? um...if you don't mind me asking...why? what, are you doing poker runs or something?

and finally,

Originally Posted by phunny
12a streetport, 47 OER sidedraft, gt35R (turblown Stage V), will be running 15 psi, intercooled, blowthrough. What fuel pressure should i be starting out at at an idle and what do i set the pressure gain at on a rising rate FPR? What pressure and flow rate fuel pump do i need?
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no explanation? dude, you can't even find the dipstick on this car and you are giving people advise on how to adjust their setups?

please stop posting brand new threads in the forum for topics that have already been widely discussed. use the search function before starting a new topic.

i honestly find it hard to believe that you're legit and not doing this as a joke. so did you buy a built car without any knowledge of turbo systems or rotaries? or did you build up the car w/ the mods listed above?

additionallly, you're a new member as of last month...

i call TROLL.
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Old 08-05-09, 09:22 AM
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try searching before you **** everybody off imo
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Old 08-05-09, 10:01 AM
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Troll......no. I bought the car as soon as Defined Autoworks was finished with the build. I am familiar with turbo setups due to having 5 previous turbo DSM's. This however is my first rotary engine. I have a 15 gal fuel cell not a fuel tank. It seams like I have been doing nothing but reading the past month trying to learn everything I can. There is not nearly as much information on FD's as there is for DSM's. The car pulls hard and runs great but there are a few minor bugs I need to work out.

Here are a few pics. If you want I can take a picture after work with today's paper or some crap...


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...1/P7270035.jpg http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...1/P7270036.jpg http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...1/P7270037.jpg http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...1/P7270038.jpg http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...1/P7270040.jpg http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...1/P7270046.jpg http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...1/P7270047.jpg


Bugs:

2 Bov's because he said that one wasn't letting enough air escape causing a "surge"

The car was rewired and all of the gauges are autometer and the rpm gauge doesn't read right(guessing it's still set for v8)

Fuel gauge is wrong(guessing wrong ohm gauge)

After driving idle wants to stay around 1700rpm(boost leak?)

At idle the IA temps are around 40-50 degrees(just has a screen on the turbo and sucking hot engine air) I bevlieve the t-62 is a 4in inlet so I'm taking it to a buddy's shop and maybe gonna fab up (2) 2 1/2 in pipes that run from the front of the car to the turbo.

Power steering was removed and instead of plugging on the shaft there is a paper towel stuck in there(I'll find a bolt to fit)

I just ordered a wideband and i'm thinking about datalogic in a month or 2. I would much rather tune my own car than trust someone else.

PS I'm thinking about a digital dash to give it a clean look and get rid of all the gauges. Input welcome.

Charlie
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Old 08-05-09, 10:45 AM
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So you've owned turbo cars, and you don't know what a BOV is?

You mention your Apexi BOV in your terse problem statement, and an HKS in your mod list. Plus there's this strange phenomenon of the stock BOV on a car that's be converted to a single turbo.

Originally Posted by phunny
Input welcome.
well. . .

Originally Posted by phunny
I can't find the dipstick anywhere
Originally Posted by phunny
Is this the normal price for a manifold?
Originally Posted by phunny
Going single, what else do I need?
I went with a fuel cell, just for safety's sake.
your "proof":


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I would much rather tune my own car than trust someone else.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but if I were you, I'd trust someone else. That's my input.
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Old 08-05-09, 11:12 AM
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Wow, it is HKS, I've had the car since saturday morning and haven't got the mod list memorized yet. Of course I know what a BOV is, but I'm not sure if this BOV will allow enough air to escape. The previous owner asked me if I wanted the fuel cell installed or leave the tank, I picked the fuel cell. Since some parts of the car look like it was put together rather quickly I'm thinking maybe he just covered the dipstick tube with something, that's why I'm trying to find the EXACT location.

Funny part is when i posted on tuners I was going to buy an FD they told me that the guys on rx7club just like to flame. I can understand how my dipstick post sounded kind of stupid but I'd rather ask than ruin this car.

As far as tuning goes, I've always used dsmlink and was very good at tuning. But I'm not sure exactly how the rx-7 reacts differently to things. Here is the link to ebay where I purchased it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TQ:MOTORS:1123
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Old 08-05-09, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 93rx74lyfe
wow...
I'm not trying to be a *****, just trying to learn as much as I can and keep this car from being abused and riced out by some 17 year old kid, and I get reply's like this one...........What does "wow" mean?

As far at the 2 bov's I'm wondering if I just need to adjust the spring pressure. After some further research I've found that this problem isn't just confined to me. Some DSM's have ran 2 stock bov's in order to vent enough air so the car won't surge. Anyone had this problem with a T-62

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Old 08-05-09, 01:13 PM
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One blow off/relief valve is sufficient. If you're not satisfied with the HKS one, go for one that can handle higher amounts of boost. Tial is a good company to start with. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by phunny
I'm not trying to be a *****, just trying to learn as much as I can
Then you should spend some time searching and reading this forum, not making dumb *** threads.

and keep this car from being abused and riced out by some 17 year old kid,
Easy solution... A) Don't sell the 7 to a 17 year old, or B) Don't be a stupid ricer.

and I get reply's like this one...........What does "wow" mean?
Wow means you're coming off as a troll, or you're just a ******* idiot. If you're serious then perhaps you should use the "Search" function, before asking dumb questions, or just stick with DSMs....



And as far as flaming goes... The rotary engine doesn't humor morons, and her owners tend to follow suite. If you don't want to be made to feel stupid, then don't say/do stupid ****.
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Old 08-05-09, 01:49 PM
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I skipped over the whole thread after the flaming started, so to answer your question, you only need your Apexi BOV.
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Old 08-05-09, 01:51 PM
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phunny,

One BOV should be plenty, even for the turbo that is on your car. Heck, it's even been argued whether BOV's are truly necessary as a lot of turbocharged professional race cars do not use them (as it's another point of failure). However, professional race cars also aren't after any real sort of longevity either.

I would remove the stock BOV and weld shut the nipple it's connected to... If you wanted to add something useful, look into a pop-off valve. Good luck with your car and research.
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Old 08-05-09, 01:57 PM
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fendamonky,

Thanks for your helpful information. You were truly a huge help and I can see that you have a lot of great information. Why do guys like you even bother to post? Do have that much anger inside?......
Oh btw, I just saw that you're in the navy, what's your rate? If I had to guess I'd say a-ganger with all the hate.

To everyone who really answered my question, thanks a lot. I'll pull the stock one off when I get home and see if I get any surging. I'll also post some pictures to show you what I'm working with.

Charlie

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phunny,

Thanks for noticing post #2 and post #3. They answered your question, yet you persisted with this thread which leads me to believe that you're just looking for attention, not information.

You "just saw" that I'm in the navy? You mean you went to the effort of looking at my forum profile in an attempt to find something to hold against me? Don't worry about what my rate is, you'll never come across me in a professional setting.
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Originally Posted by fendamonky
phunny,

Thanks for noticing post #2 and post #3. They answered your question, yet you persisted with this thread which leads me to believe that you're just looking for attention, not information.

You "just saw" that I'm in the navy? You mean you went to the effort of looking at my forum profile in an attempt to find something to hold against me? Don't worry about what my rate is, you'll never come across me in a professional setting.
1. Yes, they gave me an answer but I was still wondering if maybe too high of a spring could cause the surging by not letting enough air escape.

2. I was asking about your rate just because I was curious, I got out about 4 years ago. I was an MT on the USS Rhode Island(G) and the USS Nebraska(G)
But hey, if you want to continue to be a ***** go for it.....

You know what, this isn't worth having an internet fight over.... I tried searching but couldn't find the answers(I may just suck at searching). I understand all to well about these idiots that join a forum and tell you that they have 500hp and run a 9 seconds 1/4 with an intake and exhaust. Although I always tried to help out the new guy that wanted to learn. So lets agree to start this over and try again. After all, we are all here for the same reason(we love eat ramen noodles and drink water so we can save money for this car addiction.)

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Old 08-05-09, 02:51 PM
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Your best source of information is the search button and the factory service manual which can be found here: http://www.importworkshop.com/mazda-rx7-rx8.html

Also, you only need one BOV as many other people have stated. Just read the FAQ at the top of this thread and the FSM. It tells you everything.
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yeah, thanks alot. I just printed out the FSM a couple days ago, well everything except the auto part because it was 250 pages by itself. It took forever to print out the other 600 pages. I did find the dipstick today, holy cow is that hidden or what.....
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I've got Dual BOV's...but one is a pull type the other is a push type. I don't see a purpose of having two unless it's for redundancy for failure of one.
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