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Old 02-18-11, 08:15 AM
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Yes, give that number to a local Mazda dealership, they should be able to check build records and tell you what it came with.

Again, I would highly advise you to find someone in your area to take the car to. It may cost you some money now, but it could save you a lot in the future.
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Originally Posted by cloudz
Oh here's the vin JM1FD3335R0303469 is there a way i can tell if it's an R or Base?
There's no information encoded in the VIN that would tell you the trim level. You either have to call Mazda, or look at the equipment on the car.

From the VIN I can tell you that it is indeed a 1994 and was built sometime after January 1994. My car has a serial number near 1900 and was built in January 1994.
Old 02-19-11, 12:57 AM
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Oh okay i'll give them a call. Did you have a place in mind to get the car inspected by? I don't know any rotary specialists. The Fc didn't give me problems i couldn't handle or at least it didn't yet.
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Um since dual oil coolers is one of the main giveaways for a Type R can you guys tell me what it looks like and where it is located? Did the Base model have spoilers too? Are there any other giveaways I should look at? When i call mazda do i just say " Hi, can you guys check this vin for me to see what trim it is?"
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Have you even read the FAQ Sticky? Rather than asking question after question, how about doing a little reading first...

Also "search" is your friend. You can find many threads on dual oil coolers. Here is one in which an owner added OEM dual oil coolers to his car.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...al+oil+coolers
Old 02-22-11, 07:00 AM
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If it has dual factory oil coolers, a RED RX-7 factory engine strut bar, and black suede seats, it's likely. If not, you probably are looking at a base model.
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
I just found this pretty funny Montego, as Im the exact opposite. I wouldn't buy an FD with a sunroof, so its all bases or R packages for me haha.
Yeah it's all about personal taste. The reason I love the sunroof is because when it gets hot (which is quite often around these parts)and the car has been sitting in the sun for a few hours, it gets darn miserable in there. So I just pop open the sunroof, hatch, doors and stand outside for a couple of minutes and just let the heat out. It makes all the difference in the world to open that puppy up. Also once I get on the road the heat still radiates from the dash and cabin so keeping the sunroof open really circuates the air. Once it finally gets cool, close everything back up and crank the AC


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Oh haha. Good point.s I took a closer look at the cluster and noticed the redlines were a bit different. Is that right? Oh and i think he was the 2nd owner.
I could only find one pic of a 94 cluster and it was an automatic. On 5 speeds the redline begins at 7.5K just like the 93's.

Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1
If it has dual factory oil coolers, a RED RX-7 factory engine strut bar, and black suede seats, it's likely. If not, you probably are looking at a base model.
and no sunroof.

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theres also VERY MINOR suspension changes
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Oh okay thanks guys. I know what you mean montego haha. Well I think it's a base model. The seats had squares on them that resembled carbon fiber and it had cruise control. I looked at the bottom right of the bumper and saw an oil cooler but when I looked at the passenger side I think it had something black covering it. But I still need to call mazda to confirm it.
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okay i just called and confirmed that it is in fact a base model. Would 9.5k be a good price for a base model?
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There are many factors when determining vehicle price.

# of miles (engine & chassis)
state of the interior
suspension
wheels
title (salvage/clean)

take a look in the 3rd Gen Cars for Sale section to see what some cars sell for.
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Comparision

As stated, there are subtle interior, mechanical changes from 93+. The biggest difference is the interior plastics are textured in 94+ cars. I wouldn't worry too much about suspensuion etc. You will be changing that anyway. These are consumable items and if the car has close to 120k the suspension will be due for a change. I bought my 1993 in August of 1992, so yes you could have a 93 built in 92, a 94 built in 93 etc.
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If you need to do a rebuild, but everything else is stock and in great condition 9-9.5K is a decent price.
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I don't think it will need a rebuild soon. I redlined it and drove it to its limit when i tested it. It ran strong. It starts right up. The car is spotless. It's prestine. If you told me it was a 2011 and I didn't know it was made in 1994 I would believe you. If everything is good she'll be mine tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by REVIT93RX7
As stated, there are subtle interior, mechanical changes from 93+. The biggest difference is the interior plastics are textured in 94+ cars. I wouldn't worry too much about suspensuion etc. You will be changing that anyway. These are consumable items and if the car has close to 120k the suspension will be due for a change. I bought my 1993 in August of 1992, so yes you could have a 93 built in 92, a 94 built in 93 etc.
im not talking about shocks and springs and bushings, im talking about subtle changes in the geometry.... the rear suspension has some extra bracing i believe
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Originally Posted by cloudz
I don't think it will need a rebuild soon. I redlined it and drove it to its limit when i tested it. It ran strong. It starts right up. The car is spotless. It's prestine. If you told me it was a 2011 and I didn't know it was made in 1994 I would believe you. If everything is good she'll be mine tomorrow.
Show us some pics after you get it, I know I'm not the only one interested in seeing it.
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Originally Posted by cptpain
im talking about subtle changes in the geometry.... the rear suspension has some extra bracing i believe

This is the first I've heard of this... Very interesting if it's true.
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Originally Posted by Montego
This is the first I've heard of this... Very interesting if it's true.
well i mean its not going to be significantly apparent, i dont think it is.
for me it was very slight. even then i doubt what i saw because i drove quite a few stock FDs of all 3 MY's and they all feel the same.

but then again, that was years ago that i saw the underside of any 94/95 FDs since i have a 93 and there arent any FD's in my area. so my "experience" may be a bit fuzzy.
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Hey guys, when I drove it home. It was fine, but I noticed something in 5th gear. After 3k rpm or around their the car slowed down. I had to let me feet go off the gas pedal and repress it for it to boost again. Is this turbo lag? Besides that in 5th gear everything is 100% working. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Montego
This is the first I've heard of this... Very interesting if it's true.
There is an extra crossmember crossing the tunnel under the driveshaft. Perhaps this is the reference.

Geometry is definitely the same.

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Originally Posted by cptpain
.... the rear suspension has some extra bracing i believe
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
There is an extra crossmember crossing the tunnel under the driveshaft. Perhaps this is the reference.
Geometry is definitely the same.
David
Can't find pictures, but I think this is a reference to the two additional braces on the 94 and subsequent models. IIRC they ran forward from the cross-member just in-board of the lower 'I' arm mounting point... to the chassis near the last tunnel cross-brace.
I'm not sure what prompted Mazda to add them. I've never had any issues on my 93...and never heard of anyone else having issues either.
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Welcome to the world of troubleshooting the sequential twin turbo setup on the fd. Sounds like you could possibly a vacuum check valve issue, or a small leak in the vacuum chamber.
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Originally Posted by geilkyle2
Welcome to the world of troubleshooting the sequential twin turbo setup on the fd. Sounds like you could possibly a vacuum check valve issue, or a small leak in the vacuum chamber.
this is probably the unfortunate reality, good luck and have fun. Remember to take some breaks too.
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aaaw man. Sounds terrible. I'll get pictures up tomorrow for sure. Been busy today
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
There is an extra crossmember crossing the tunnel under the driveshaft. Perhaps this is the reference.

Geometry is definitely the same.

David
huh... didn't even know that. Cool
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