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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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1300cc injector set up values

I posted this in the PFC section also, but thought some of you with 1300cc injectors may not fequent that section..........................

I picked up a set of new 850cc injectors from the RX7 store & had them forwarded to RC Engineering converting them to 1300's.

My question concerns lag times & proper 1300cc secondary injector set up.

From my reading through old post about 1300cc lag times I came up with anywhere from +.16ms to +.43ms, with the understanding that +.2ms works well.

The 1300cc correction value would be 65%

So on the commander "injector pulse timing correction" screen do I want to see the following????????????????

Fr-Pr 100% +0.00ms
Fr-Sc +0.20ms

Rr-Pr 65% +0.00ms
Rr-Sc +0.20ms

Q-Pr 550cc
Q-Sc 1300cc

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"M"
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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FR-PR 100% 0.00
FR-SC 100% 0.20
Rr-Pr 100% 0.00
Rr-Sc 100% 0.20



Works perfect
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Do you have access to a Datalogit? You're probably also going to want to change injector overlap and pri/sec transition %.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by xblazinlv
FR-PR 100% 0.00
FR-SC 100% 0.20
Rr-Pr 100% 0.00
Rr-Sc 100% 0.20
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Really?? Page 26 of the manual shows how to correct for larger injectors.

Use the original injector value & divide it by your new injector value.

850 divided by 1300 = 0.653 or 65.3%



Originally Posted by skotx
Do you have access to a Datalogit? You're probably also going to want to change injector overlap and pri/sec transition %.
The shop IM taking the car for a dyno tune has FC datalogit for RX-7's.

The reason for the post was because I installed the injectors at home & wanted to get the Initial set up inputted prior to driving the car (slowly) down there.

But now I have a new twist. I just scored some 99 spec 280hp turbos off eBay. So IM gonna hold off on tuning until after I get them installed.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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I've been driving around with the 100% setting for a couple weeks now and it works perfectly fine.


I was given those settings by 2 different tuners, so I'd assume it is ok to leave the values at 100%
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 04:02 AM
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any more supporting comments ont he injector setup values? I'd also like to know :-)
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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what's the setup on 1600cc/1680cc secondaries? (550cc prim)
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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Note that Rr-Pr means "rear primary". I don't think you need to put in any percentages when you change the size of the secondaries. Just the size.

-Max
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 04:50 AM
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so when upgrading injectors all you need to do is setup the lag time and the injector size?
don't the maps need to be adjusted too? like timing and fuel?
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by maxcooper
Note that Rr-Pr means "rear primary". I don't think you need to put in any percentages when you change the size of the secondaries. Just the size.

-Max
I realize what it stood for. I just thought that it was a generic screen adapted from the 4 cylinder screen.

Why would you have different values for the front & rear Primary injectors only?

Plus, you do an injector correction for the Primary injectors only?

I don't doubt you reply I just want to understand the logic from Apexi better.

Bottom line.................

Looks like all I need to do is change the Fr/Rr-Sc inj lag values to +0.20 & update the Sc inj from 850cc to 1300cc
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by maxcooper
Note that Rr-Pr means "rear primary". I don't think you need to put in any percentages when you change the size of the secondaries. Just the size.

-Max


That's what I heard as well. Also, if you check page 26 of the commander service manual, when they show the example, you'll see they don't change or even set a percentage value for the bigger injectors.
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